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Post by richardkelsey on Aug 31, 2010 13:13:12 GMT -5
So -- what nights are the candidates debating? :-)
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Post by Mike Rosseel on Aug 31, 2010 14:30:41 GMT -5
So -- what nights are the candidates debating? :-) Thats great Rich! Not even being funny but are there def 4 canidates? Still havent heard anything about the republican canidate, anyone hear or know anything? |
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Post by richardkelsey on Aug 31, 2010 14:40:03 GMT -5
So -- what nights are the candidates debating? :-) Thats great Rich! Not even being funny but are there def 4 canidates? Still havent heard anything about the republican canidate, anyone hear or know anything? Good question. Post labor-day is the traditional kick-off for campaign season. In Freehold, one would think one would want to be way out in front of that campaign season with a strong walking campaign. I look forward to seeing what transpires this season. |
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Post by BrianSullivan on Aug 31, 2010 15:33:26 GMT -5
So -- what nights are the candidates debating? :-) Thats great Rich! Not even being funny but are there def 4 canidates? Still havent heard anything about the republican canidate, anyone hear or know anything? Agreed. d**n good question. I too look forward to answers. Is it really that time of the year already? Oh boy, here we go again. |
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Post by BrianSullivan on Aug 31, 2010 17:23:07 GMT -5
So -- what nights are the candidates debating? :-) In past years, Councilman George Schnurr assured me that any debate is between the Dems and the GOP and that third parties are not welcome. My personal belief has always been that if we the people wait for the two parties, we will only see partisan bickering and not a debate of any kind. I am also very curious as to how the two parties will actually put something together that is more fair and neutral than having a local paper and the league of women voters involved. I will be out of the loop watching what happens with great curiosity. For now, I have one questions.... As far as this thread and the election, I will be resuming the path that I usually do, to simply get the best possible info about the election and the candidates. I will not be endorsing any side this year. Readers may recall that last year I was very out of character and skewered one candidate. I do not foresee the need for that this year and have no plans to do that again. There are people on both sides I like and people on both sides I have questions about. I will not be discussing either of my views. Also, for the kool Ade drinkers who see GOP conspiracies under every rock, for the record, I am still not involved with the local GOP, nor will I be. If that changes, I will happily announce it because it is not something to be ashamed of. |
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Post by lisas84 on Aug 31, 2010 17:55:43 GMT -5
Uh....George is not up for re-election this year. I would imagine that if a debate happens, it's done between the two parties and a joint announcement will be made. Eh. Here in the 'ship there ain't nothing like that. Not that I'm complaining because I really do like and respect my township committee leaders. Which reminds me, I need to see which ones are up again this year! It's usually not that big a deal like it is borough-side.
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Post by BrianSullivan on Sept 1, 2010 4:59:52 GMT -5
Uh....George is not up for re-election this year. I would imagine that if a debate happens, it's done between the two parties and a joint announcement will be made. Eh. Here in the 'ship there ain't nothing like that. Not that I'm complaining because I really do like and respect my township committee leaders. Which reminds me, I need to see which ones are up again this year! It's usually not that big a deal like it is borough-side. I know Geo isn't running this year. He wasn't last year either but made it super duper clear to me that any debate arrangements are to be between the two political parties. Hence my skepticism. I would be really impressed if those two sides could actually get together and do something nice for the residents of this town. I am a big fan of people putting aside differences and doing something good together. I am sorry there is no action in your town. I guess you voters will be stcuk making your decisions absed on ugly lawn signs, annoying mailers and door knocking and news paper articles that really do not tell you much. And then we wonder why so many voters voted party line? I will not be dwelling on the debate that won't happen in this town. What I will be doing is seeking out tons of info about the candidates and issues with the goal of making these election threads the best resource for borough voters. I have some really good ideas for this year. |
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Post by lisas84 on Sept 1, 2010 7:11:01 GMT -5
Brian, I'm telling you, nobody knocked on my door in the past several years. I wish they would. It would be a highly enjoyable conversation for me. But then again, the 'ship is so huge, I suppose it may not be feasible to cover all developments (although imagine the benefits of the exercise!). On the bright side, I do know that Colleen at FinJ will likely do something about our candidates when the time is right and I can take it from there. Regarding your sentence about wondering why so many people vote party line -- those people are the ones who ignore all the pre-election day marketing; they are already stuck in that straight color line mentality. I can say for sure I don't do that; my voting record is a solid Purple!  |
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Post by richardkelsey on Sept 1, 2010 9:57:09 GMT -5
If I were running the GOP in Freehold -- well -- that could be the title of a book actually.
But -- seriously -- if the dems won't debate. And, to be fair, we don't know that they won't. I would stage my own candidates forum -- and have a mock debate. Bring in two people dressed like the other candidates, and have them answer questions using famous dem cliches and direct quotes from previous articles. It could be a real holler. Heck -- might make a fun fundraiser.
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Post by Mike Rosseel on Sept 1, 2010 14:36:01 GMT -5
Brian and Rich,
We all know Brian and myself dont see eye to eye on political issues from time to time, oh hell pretty much everytime. Lets see if Brian can ask Ted(not saying your a GOP Brian, just know your friends with Ted) to sit in on all debate meetings and I will ask if I can sit as well, atleast between Brian and myself, we should be able to kill all rumors of whos fault not having a debate is. Im willing to beat anyone, there will be NO DEBATE again this year!!!
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Post by BrianSullivan on Sept 1, 2010 15:48:54 GMT -5
Brian and Rich, We all know Brian and myself dont see eye to eye on political issues from time to time, oh hell pretty much everytime. Lets see if Brian can ask Ted(not saying your a GOP Brian, just know your friends with Ted) to sit in on all debate meetings and I will ask if I can sit as well, atleast between Brian and myself, we should be able to kill all rumors of whos fault not having a debate is. Im willing to beat anyone, there will be NO DEBATE again this year!!! Mike, I appreciate your good faith offer, but this year I am getting involved in absolutely nothing related to debates or elections. I really have full intentions of sitting on the sidelines and watching the show. ( besides seeking and posting the best possible info I can about the candidates and issues) Personally, I am not concerned about squashing rumors from last year or this year. I have nothing to gain or lose from any of it, people may believe what ever they wish. If somebody else can get a good clean debate going, that is great. I have no need to be involved. I never did- I simply tried to get things going because nobody else was. In the end, I got kicked in the teeth for it and lost a friend last year. This year, I am going for a quiet year. |
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Post by BrianSullivan on Sept 20, 2010 9:37:09 GMT -5
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Post by BrianSullivan on Sept 27, 2010 7:18:22 GMT -5
Just some observations... We reported here that the Dems have a "meet the candidate night" and have a very nice new web site. On top of that, the Dems have been putting out lawn signs and have been handing out flyers door to door.
Last year, the machine was a bit rusty and squeaky. This year it appears to be a well oiled machine.
In contrast, has anybody heard anything from the Republican Club? One would think the underdog would be doing something by now.
At the rate things are going, I think a repeat of the 2008 election is predictable. The Dems will win in a landslide.
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Post by admin on Oct 26, 2010 11:19:00 GMT -5
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Post by admin on Oct 26, 2010 11:22:11 GMT -5
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Post by lisas84 on Oct 26, 2010 11:58:21 GMT -5
Great questions. I have to say I still have no clue as to what a "cost down" is because I cannot find the term on the internet, anywhere. If I don't understand its meaning, I highly doubt anyone else will either.
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Post by lisas84 on Oct 26, 2010 19:22:10 GMT -5
Why is there such a noticeable dearth in commentary about the race this year?
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Post by BrianSullivan on Oct 27, 2010 5:51:52 GMT -5
Why is there such a noticeable dearth in commentary about the race this year? The answer to that came in the mail yesterday- the sample ballot. I looked at that ballot and there is not a single race that we are voting on that creates any enthusiasm. The house race is Chris Smith vs. challengers. Been very boring there. The Sheriff's race does have that death in the jail hanging over it, but I am not sure to what effect. The Freeholder race has been dull. The local borough race is both weird and dull. While it is very clear that the Wilson machine is campaigning better this year, the other side is employing an eerie silence. Neither side has given the public much to chew on. I think the real interest this year is what happens nation wide and in Washington. |
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Post by lisas84 on Oct 27, 2010 7:55:44 GMT -5
Brian, mine came too! All I can say is oy vey. There's one particular race, the township, that I just cannot make my mind up on. I love Barbara McMorrow, and know how effective and passionate she is. Conversely, I also really like Ray Santiago and feel he should be graced with the opportunity to serve on the committee. Both of their commentaries in their statements made sense to me. In short, indecision just sucks! |
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Post by BrianSullivan on Oct 29, 2010 16:22:04 GMT -5
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Post by ess0350 on Oct 30, 2010 0:18:30 GMT -5
There was an article in the APP I believe on Wednesday or Thursday this week regarding debates in Freehold Boro. It was reported that there were issues finding a date that worked for all parties.
On another note, the subject of this thread, there is discontent that seems to have permiated our country and reported by major newspapers and other public news sources, for example the Wall Street Journal. There appears to be maliase in this country about the direction and hard times facing many citizens as well as the current federal administration. It seems to be that people in general are culminating in a common voice desiring change and not business as usual. A very good indictor of this sentiment is the rise of the Tea Pary.
Just a thought, this voice of change that we seem to hear about in the media could very well carry over, trickle down and affect races in the state and municipalities. I would not be suprised if those feelings of voters will be represented in our elections. I am not advocating for either party or grass roots entity, but more a musing of my observations.
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Post by biker79 on Nov 1, 2010 10:12:59 GMT -5
Amazing, twice now my lawn signs have been stolen!!!! As I drive around Freehold, I see plenty of Democrat signs in place, but someone is stealing the GOP campaign signs?  Number one, this is called trespassing, and is illegal. My lawn signs are on my property, not boro, county or state property. If someone came in my yard and took a lawnmower, thats called theft. Second, Where is the sense of fair play? I could see outdoing the opposition, having a debate, going door to door, but stealing lawn signs? Very childish. Is this how certain parties run campaigns by stealing the other parties signs? Grow up people!!!!! Are elected officials actually behind this? If so, what a poor reflection on Freehold . |
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Post by dfx on Nov 1, 2010 10:30:03 GMT -5
I totally agree with "Biker". Sunday morning several Lichardi/Miller signs were also "relocated" onto the front lawns of both democratic candidates.
There is NO place for this in a fair/honest political campaign. The fact that all 4 of these candidates have offered their time & energy to our society (regardless of the fact if you agree or disagree with their political philosophy) should be recognized and respected.
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That said, my neighbor's Lichardi/Miller sign was missing Sunday morning around 8am, but then it reappeared around 10am. I think she may have brought it inside to avoid having kids mess with it during Mischief Night, but I haven't had a chance to ask her about it yet...
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Post by lisas84 on Nov 1, 2010 11:13:15 GMT -5
biker, sounds like theft to me. Did you call the police before you reported it on here? Or, you could have called the candidates and they should have reported it -- it's stolen property plain and simple, in my opinion.
Stealing lawn signs is so low.
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Post by treble on Nov 1, 2010 11:41:12 GMT -5
We, too, noticed our signs (as well as the rest of our neighborhood and surrounding ones) down early Sunday morning. We decided to take a drive around town and most other signs that were previously up were no longer. A few houses here and there still had theirs, but the majority of them were gone. We filed a report with the police and let Mr. Miller know, who then replaced ours and a few others. The other party's signs are still up, however.
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Post by dfx on Nov 1, 2010 13:19:39 GMT -5
The other party's signs are still up, however. Some Democratic signs have been removed as well. dfx |
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Post by Mike Rosseel on Nov 1, 2010 14:00:10 GMT -5
Certainly isnt right that anyones signs have been stolen or knocked down! With that being said, lets be realistic, its happened before and will happen again! I know that doesnt make it right but its a fact! Some people take elections alittle too fair! Dems signs def have been stolen, my neighbor has had his removed 2 times this year already, its happening on both sides.....Guess just more people dislike Miller!!!
FYI- I have witnesses to where I have been all weekend Rich K....lol (joke)
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Post by BrianSullivan on Nov 1, 2010 14:04:39 GMT -5
Sad to say, but this kind of crap happens everywhere. Articles pop up all over the country about campaign sign vandalism. I really thought this year was going to be a boring year for the election- I should know better, this is the borough. Between the debate about the debate that was never going to happen and now the campaign sign thefts, I was wrong. FinNJ picked up on the story.... freehold.injersey.com/2010/11/01/the-case-of-the-missing-lawn-signs/ |
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Post by treble on Nov 1, 2010 14:08:35 GMT -5
*sigh*...Here we go....
A few of the democratic signs are down as opposed to nearly the entire Borough's-worth of Lichardi/Miller signs removed and taken. Please.
By the way, with regard to the ever-lovin' debate, and should you want the real story, go to the Republican Headquarters and chat with the candidates directly. This whole debate topic is rather tiresome; get out and vote for CHANGE, folks.
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Post by Mike Rosseel on Nov 1, 2010 14:11:17 GMT -5
*sigh*...Here we go.... A few of the democratic signs are down as opposed to nearly the entire Borough's-worth of Lichardi/Miller signs removed and taken. Please. By the way, with regard to the ever-lovin' debate, and should you want the real story, go to the Republican Headquarters and chat with the candidates directly. This whole debate topic is rather tiresome; get out and vote for CHANGE, folks. SIGH.......maybe all of millers signs equals 15 signs, as quoted by him!!! Dems have had there fair share too!!! FACTS are facts! |
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Number one, this is called trespassing, and is illegal. My lawn signs are on my property, not boro, county or state property. If someone came in my yard and took a lawnmower, thats called theft. Second, Where is the sense of fair play?