2 Charged with Murder in 2008 Shooting

[lisa]

Mike I was waiting for you to bring this up and I'm sitting here LMAO

"You seem to point out the Latino population and there issues? is that group a problem with you?'

Just to clue you in to the matter I happen to be married to a Latin man. THAT’S were the comparison ends though. I've known this man for more years than I care to even get into but let’s just leave it at more than half my life. He is NOTHING like the Latino's in this town. But knowing him and his family and even traveling to his country allows me to see the huge gap between what he is and what our overwhelming Latin community is made up of. Mike don't even assume or think that there is even an ounce of prejudice in my system. If that were true how would I have ever worked in Brownsville Brooklyn? Much less marry a Latin man. But something tells me you know little of that section of East New York or would even be able to understand the parallels I see between the two.
Mike I know what I see and this town is slowly...... Ever so slowly being handed over on a silver platter to our Latin Non-English speaking community. Trust me there’s a fine line between accommodation and allowing a group of people to take a town over, and I fear we just might be past the breaking point. If not? That’s exactly where we’re headed

[lisas84]

Brian,

If you are speaking regarding how the governign body has reacted during showings of groups at public meetings, any experienced governing body and the attorney, administrator and police chief who are always there understand that it is an open public meeting, and therefore must ensure that people are allowed to speak. In addition, they also need to ensure control so that the meeting allows voices/sentiments to be heard - without devolving into a riot situation.

I also remember frequent comments emanating from those sitting at The Long Table to have praised the work of the FB PD, in constant support and solidarity.

Just my two-cent observation!

[BrianSullivan]

Mar 10, 2010 18:50:55 GMT -5 lisa said:

Mike I was waiting for you to bring this up and I'm sitting here LMAO

"You seem to point out the Latino population and there issues? is that group a problem with you?'

Just to clue you in to the matter I happen to be married to a Latin man. THAT’S were the comparison ends though. I've known this man for more years than I care to even get into but let’s just leave it at more than half my life. He is NOTHING like the Latino's in this town. But knowing him and his family and even traveling to his country allows me to see the huge gap between what he is and what our overwhelming Latin community is made up of. Mike don't even assume or think that there is even an ounce of prejudice in my system. If that were true how would I have ever worked in Brownsville Brooklyn? Much less marry a Latin man. But something tells me you know little of that section of East New York or would even be able to understand the parallels I see between the two.
Mike I know what I see and this town is slowly...... Ever so slowly being handed over on a silver platter to our Latin Non-English speaking community. Trust me there’s a fine line between accommodation and allowing a group of people to take a town over, and I fear we just might be past the breaking point. If not? That’s exactly where we’re headed

In reference to the highlighted part of Lisa's post, see my previous comments on the terrible mishandling of outside interests. It is nothing to do with race or ethnicity, but everything to do with a political movement with a distinct agenda- a movement that most of the immigrants have nothing to do with. And people in this town worry about Ted Miller and treat him like public enemy number one? Ha!

[Mike Rosseel]

Well Lisa, your right I know nothing about East New York. Let me teach you about my history, I am born in Jersey City (you know anything about that) Jersey City is known as the true melting pot of NJ! So, I have dealt with good and bad of all people. So glad your sitting laughing and waiting, so glad your married to a wonderful Latin man! Thats lovely!

How long have you lived in Freehold to mold your wonderful opinion and foresight? I have lived here for 33 years! So maybe you have read whatever you have read over the last lets say 10 yrs, I have 20 plus more years of what I have seen then you! Please dont talk down to anyone!!!

We have a latino population similar to Keyport, Matawan, Red bank, should I keep going? Seems to me that this is much bigger then Freehold, Small Town Boro, seems like a national problem to me. Hit the streets Lisa, you want to talk to some law enforcement officers to know the facts, let me know, I'd love to set that up for you!

[lisa]

LOL I wish I knew how to make that box.

I'll just do my best here....

(Lisa, unfortunately, a murder-suicide-arson just happened in a bucolic town, Holmdel. Murders happen everywhere.

I am really curious as to what the heck goes on in the minds of people like that, people who murder and think they can get away with it. It really boggles my mind.)

Lisa I agree with you completely. What really upsets me even more is when these people are convicted the amount of time they get in jail is pathetic. I have a girlfriend I went through High school with. Her and I were almost always together until her older brother of two years was murdered at Bayshore community Hospital. He was 17 years old, engaged to be married to literally the girl next door. It was his first job. His family was getting all excited about the up comeing marriage when one Friday night he just did'nt come home. Since he was of legal age the police didn't start looking for him for 24 hours. They finally found him stuffed into a laundry shoot at the hospital on a floor that was'nt open to the public yet. As you can imagine everyone he knew was devistated. The worst part was when they found the man who killed him? He got three years in jail. To this day it still feels like such a waste.
Lisa I know murders happpen everywhere both of the ones were tallking about happened to both happen in Holmdel. Even though years apart. What I have a major problem with this one is.... no one seems to want to explicitly say what the murder was about. I know exactly why my friends brother was killed. And it's not a nice reason but usually Police are very quick in figureing it out. This small town murder seems to be very hush hush as far as thats concerned. "They Think it was gang related" This is two years now. So who's not wanting to say what?

[admin]

Mar 10, 2010 19:14:04 GMT -5 lisa said:

LOL I wish I knew how to make that box.

I'll just do my best here....

(Lisa, unfortunately, a murder-suicide-arson just happened in a bucolic town, Holmdel. Murders happen everywhere.

I am really curious as to what the heck goes on in the minds of people like that, people who murder and think they can get away with it. It really boggles my mind.)

Lisa I agree with you completely. What really upsets me even more is when these people are convicted the amount of time they get in jail is pathetic. I have a girlfriend I went through High school with. Her and I were almost always together until her older brother of two years was murdered at Bayshore community Hospital. He was 17 years old, engaged to be married to literally the girl next door. It was his first job. His family was getting all excited about the up comeing marriage when one Friday night he just did'nt come home. Since he was of legal age the police didn't start looking for him for 24 hours. They finally found him stuffed into a laundry shoot at the hospital on a floor that was'nt open to the public yet. As you can imagine everyone he knew was devistated. The worst part was when they found the man who killed him? He got three years in jail. To this day it still feels like such a waste.
Lisa I know murders happpen everywhere both of the ones were tallking about happened to both happen in Holmdel. Even though years apart. What I have a major problem with this one is.... no one seems to want to explicitly say what the murder was about. I know exactly why my friends brother was killed. And it's not a nice reason but usually Police are very quick in figureing it out. This small town murder seems to be very hush hush as far as thats concerned. "They Think it was gang related" This is two years now. So who's not wanting to say what?

To make the box, just click on quote which is found inside of each post in the upper right corner.

[lisas84]

Lisa, oy vey! I so believe in the death penalty! I'm so sorry about your friend.

[lisa]

Mike funny you should happen to mention those towns

(Well Lisa, your right I know nothing about East New York. Let me teach you about my history, I am born in Jersey City (you know anything about that) Jersey City is known as the true melting pot of NJ! So, I have dealt with good and bad of all people. So glad your sitting laughing and waiting, so glad your married to a wonderful Latin man! Thats lovely!

How long have you lived in Freehold to mold your wonderful opinion and foresight? I have lived here for 33 years! So maybe you have read whatever you have read over the last lets say 10 yrs, I have 20 plus more years of what I have seen then you! Please don’t talk down to anyone!!!

We have a latino population similar to Keyport, Matawan, Red bank, should I keep going? Seems to me that this is much bigger then Freehold, Small Town Boro, seems like a national problem to me. Hit the streets Lisa, you want to talk to some law enforcement officers to know the facts, let me know, I'd love to set that up for you!

I have lived in both Keyport, Matawan and Red Bank ALL for an average of 10 years each. I have also Long Branch And am extremely familiar with ALL of those towns. I also happened to have worked in Manhattan for over 13 years and had many friends that lived in Jersey City. Mike don't assume you’re talking to a kid. You’re not! I do happen to prefer small towns specifically Because of places like Jersey City. I like the peace and quiet they usually automatically provide. And just a last note mike living as close to Freehold borough from all of those towns don't think I’m as ignorant as to not know what goes on in the towns around where I happen to reside. I was VERY familiar with the Borough and its reputation for as far back as I can remember. I'll give you just one example I graduated from Keyport high school. Maybe you remember the rival the two football teams from both those schools had going on for years? Well I do and I had a lot of fun with it even back then.
Mike just one last note growing up in Keyport during the years that I did. It was nothing like what’s going on in this town right now. Even to this day there's a small section of town in Keyport that’s consists of many Latino's
Of all towns for you to mention, lololol. I can tell you more about Keyport than anyone on here cares to read. My entire family use to have the chief of Police over for Christmas dinners. Along with many politicians. That town understood EXACTLY what they were dealing with and although it was problem yes. But living in Keyport for as long as I did I never worried about the crime rate in that town EVER!!! I never felt like I was crawling over people that give you dirty looks in the street as you drive past them. And I NEVER had anything to complain about with the way they dealt with the problem. Ya know it’s funny I almost went to Keyport today. A town that is more beautiful today than when I left it!!!

As for your question of how long I've lived in Freehold? I moved into this town in 1995 I think that’s long enough to get more than good feel for a town and what it is, and is not, for that matter. And no I'm not going anywhere despite what you may wish. As far as talking down to you or anyone else? Mike I’m a basic person……. I give what I get.

[Mike Rosseel]

Lisa, I am done responding to you, present one fact to me. Tell me what police you have spoken to to tell you about how the goverment runs the department? What offical or source do you have about goverment has been or is run? If you have heard about the reputation of this town and felt so GREAT IN KEYPORT, why come here? Your bashing our hometowns. We have a right to get defensive. Our families have served this town, we all grew up together. Heres an example, as much as I have argued with Rich Kelsey, I have known him since i was alittle kid and if I saw him out would have a beer with him because I can put opinions aside. I wonder if Mr Merla, Mr Strang, or the Peterson family about Keyport and they would tell you there problem is as big as ours.

FYI- I dont think your a child, I think your an adult that has a strong opinion and cant let others have one too!!! Facts are important!

[lisa]

Mar 10, 2010 20:04:57 GMT -5 Mike Rosseel said:

Lisa, I am done responding to you, present one fact to me. Tell me what police you have spoken to to tell you about how the goverment runs the department? What offical or source do you have about goverment has been or is run? If you have heard about the reputation of this town and felt so GREAT IN KEYPORT, why come here? Your bashing our hometowns. We have a right to get defensive. Our families have served this town, we all grew up together. Heres an example, as much as I have argued with Rich Kelsey, I have known him since i was alittle kid and if I saw him out would have a beer with him because I can put opinions aside. I wonder if Mr Merla, Mr Strang, or the Peterson family about Keyport and they would tell you there problem is as big as ours.

FYI- I dont think your a child, I think your an adult that has a strong opinion and cant let others have one too!!! Facts are important!

Mike whatever trips your trigger. Can't say I didn’t expect that reaction either. Your not to tough to figure out actually. Just take some advice, good, bad or indifferent Try opening your eyes to reality for a change. Get rid of those glasses

[lisa]

Mar 10, 2010 19:40:41 GMT -5 lisas84 said:

Lisa, oy vey! I so believe in the death penalty! I'm so sorry about your friend.

Lisa thanks for the thoughts. It was a long time ago. Tough to say but I also agree with you on the death penalty. I believe we should have it for Cop Killers, and for premeditated murder.
Ya know the really sad thing? They couldn't prove it but that guy? To this day I remember his name. Maybe I shouldn't even say it but it's Fred Garrison. They also believed he was a child molester. They couldn't prove it so they couldn't put him on trial for it.

[Mike Rosseel]

Mar 10, 2010 20:10:45 GMT -5 lisa said:

Mar 10, 2010 20:04:57 GMT -5 Mike Rosseel said:

Lisa, I am done responding to you, present one fact to me. Tell me what police you have spoken to to tell you about how the goverment runs the department? What offical or source do you have about goverment has been or is run? If you have heard about the reputation of this town and felt so GREAT IN KEYPORT, why come here? Your bashing our hometowns. We have a right to get defensive. Our families have served this town, we all grew up together. Heres an example, as much as I have argued with Rich Kelsey, I have known him since i was alittle kid and if I saw him out would have a beer with him because I can put opinions aside. I wonder if Mr Merla, Mr Strang, or the Peterson family about Keyport and they would tell you there problem is as big as ours.

FYI- I dont think your a child, I think your an adult that has a strong opinion and cant let others have one too!!! Facts are important!

Mike whatever trips your trigger. Can't say I didn’t expect that reaction either. Your not to tough to figure out actually. Just take some advice, good, bad or indifferent Try opening your eyes to reality for a change. Get rid of those glasses

Lisa, who are you to tell anyone how to be, your not to hard to read either. You dont like it here, leave period or do something about it. Get involved, don't sit behind a screen and bash a town and its governing body, run for a position.

I still say, tell me a fact, i see you enjoy running in circles, attack me personally all you want, I have offered facts you have offered garbage. People that sit behind a screen complain and never do anything really have no place to cry. When was the last council meeting you have gone to since 1995? What was the last time you sat with someone that has lived here more then 10 years and found out the facts?

[lisa]

Mar 10, 2010 20:19:21 GMT -5 Mike Rosseel said:

Mar 10, 2010 20:10:45 GMT -5 lisa said:

Mike whatever trips your trigger. Can't say I didn’t expect that reaction either. Your not to tough to figure out actually. Just take some advice, good, bad or indifferent Try opening your eyes to reality for a change. Get rid of those glasses

Lisa, who are you to tell anyone how to be, your not to hard to read either. You dont like it here, leave period or do something about it. Get involved, don't sit behind a screen and bash a town and its governing body, run for a position.

I still say, tell me a fact, i see you enjoy running in circles, attack me personally all you want, I have offered facts you have offered garbage. People that sit behind a screen complain and never do anything really have no place to cry. When was the last council meeting you have gone to since 1995? What was the last time you sat with someone that has lived here more then 10 years and found out the facts?

Mike in the first place YOU started with me if you remember correctly or if you bother to go back a page this was your statement!


Lisa when you write: …” even knowing every one is basically wearing a harness.” Exactly what does that mean and what is your proof? You sound like you know what’s going on. I think you owe it to explain what this means.

Also, when you wonder “why most of them even stay here? Why exactly do you wonder this? Are you implying that FB is not a good place to be a police officer? Again, why? Have you heard of any officers leaving town to go elsewhere? I sure haven't! Seems to me to be more of a post to use the police to fire people up against our governing body, which included John Newman!


If you read anything that I said previously you would have figured out that I NEVER Have and NEVER will disparage our Police officers and I actually resent you even hinting at that fact! so who insulted whom first? Also I'd like to honestly ask you one single fact that you have offered? What that you know each individual Police officer in Freehold Boro? Well good for you but i don't consider that a useful fact or agree that it proves anything.

As Far as council meetings? Actually I've been to three and was actually quoted in the Asbury Park press with a disagreement I had about another bodega being added to throckmorton. If I feel something applies to me? Bank on the fact that I'll be at that meeting. Otherwise having previously been involved in small town politics (In Keyport in fact) I haven’t been to enthusiastic with some of the things I’ve learned so far. You want an example? Here look at this. You want links you've got them.
newstranscript.gmnews.com/news/2004-07-28/Front_page/003.html
Answer me one question with that one? Maybe you can explain why that drug task force was disbanded? One of the first things I learned about in this town is the drug problem. As you may have noticed in one of my previous posts...My cousin was stopped for suspected drugs in his car while driving down Center Street. Of course he didn't have any. If he did he would have had to worry more about me than the police. But I was happy at the time to know they were watching. What’s the story now? There are gangs in Freehold but no Drugs? Or maybe you think that question is a personal attack?
Mike If you want innuendo. I'll give it back. if you want to speak to me like an adult I can do that to. Like I said I give what I get

[Mike Rosseel]

Well lisa, im not a gang member nor have I ever been arrested for drugs so your personal attack means nothing to me.

Heres a fact lisa, the prosecutor’s office shut down that task force not Freehold boro. Did you read the first statement in the article? listen or read carefully, Freehold Boro had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TASK FORCE BEING REMOVED, CLEAR YET? Maybe you should direct your anger about this force departing to prosecutor’s office AND ASK THEM! Nice try.

Question, I have never heard of someone being stopped because of suspected drugs in there car, thats alittle odd? That would be an illegal search Lisa!

[lisa]

Mar 10, 2010 22:17:02 GMT -5 Mike Rosseel said:

Well lisa, im not a gang member nor have I ever been arrested for drugs so your personal attack means nothing to me.

Heres a fact lisa, the prosecutor’s office shut down that task force not Freehold boro. Did you read the first statement in the article? listen or read carefully, Freehold Boro had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TASK FORCE BEING REMOVED, CLEAR YET? Maybe you should direct your anger about this force departing to prosecutor’s office AND ASK THEM! Nice try.

Question, I have never heard of someone being stopped because of suspected drugs in there car, thats alittle odd? That would be an illegal search Lisa!

Mike first of all to make things EXTREMELY clear I never accused or even assumed you of any gang or drug envolvement. A little paranoid are we?? Or Is it just a basic problem with the english language .


As far as the article did you miss the statements made by our Mayor?
1.) The Joint Investigation Team (JIT) will not be policing Freehold Bor-ough and Freehold Township streets for drugs anymore. The duties that had been shared by officers from the two communities have been turned over to the Monmouth County Drug Task Force.
In Other words The mayor chose to take our officers out of the drug force picture.
In the article it asks why the policing of drug trafficking on borough streets had been turned over to the county’s drug task force.

These were OUR officers not County Officers
Our Mayor also said...
"We contribute to the county’s task force and we are the county seat. We have every right to ask them to help us out."

Since you like to assume things so easily I'll explain that statement to you. It means We have the right to dictate to the county if the services of that Task force are required.

"The drug task force was a 17-member specially trained police team which included nine Freehold Borough officers and eight Freehold Township officers. It was formed in 1999. Members of JIT had jurisdiction in both munic­ipalities. The team also enlisted the services of the Monmouth County Sheriff’s Office and/or the New Jersey State Police when neces­sary. The force was staffed by offi­cers who worked part-time with JIT in addition to their duties as regular police officers."


Now you prove to me where and how the prosecutors Office shut that down?? Especially since it's made up of our officers. Since when and where is their a law that says Mayors of any town can't request the use of officers from surrounding towns as well as Officers under his control for a task force?

The First statement you refer to I believe is
" The Joint Investigation Team (JIT) will not be policing Freehold Bor-ough and Freehold Township streets for drugs anymore. The duties that had been shared by officers from the two communities have been turned over to the Monmouth County Drug Task Force."

Key word? TURNED OVER Which means washing your hands of... means giving up on.... means getting ride of. Means Our Mayor decided even though they were doing a great job It was'nt worth it for them to give up their time for the task force. and handed the responsability over to the county.

Funny but I don't see where the county is doing such a great job in the County seat when there are streets in this town that most people know are drug nests.


As far as your question about my cousin? you know as well as i do that an officer can search your car if he suspects ANYTHING. My cousin was driving down center street with all kinds of clothing and moving boxes in his back seat. I had no problem with them stopping him. If I were an officer i probably would have done the same thing. Mike this time I'm going to ask you a personal question. Do you often practice the habit of twisting someones words around to suit your own interests?

[Mike Rosseel]

Lisa,

Last time I checked moving boxes and clothes weren't reason for a officer to search a vehicle. Sounds more to me like they may have thought he was moving then a drug user or dealer, someting is missing here?

I'm getting my FACTS from people involved in the situation, not from misreading an article like yourself. Our department has and always will work hand and hand with our council. There isn't a false division like you seem to be presenting here. Seems to me like you and other posters on here are trying to spark a question of doubt about the relaionship of our police and our goverment, is that because the two genltmen up for elction this year are the commissioner and assisstant commissioner? oh, point for me! Also, you seemed like an excited resident when John Newman posted on here the other day, why dont you share all your knowledge with him about the "nest" areas you know of!

I believe this statement proves the "turnover" was out of there hands..."Monmouth County Prose-cutor John Kaye confirmed last week that JIT is no longer an operating unit, but said he was not at liberty to say why the local effort came to an end." If the mayor said hey, i like the drugs and gangs in our street Mr Kaye, Im stopping or as you put it washing my hands of this task force, dont you think John Kaye would have got alittle mad? do you know anything about john kaye, well, he was a no nonsense guy who would have nailed the mayor to the cross if he did this, you know why he didnt, because Our Mayor didnt end this task force.

How can I be paranoid Lisa, I post on this site as a visible member with my real first and last name, can you say the same? Doesn't seem as if you can!

So you keep dreaming of this perfect small towm america your looking for, you probaly would destroy it if you found it with false accusations like these against hard working people trying to help our town! Keep looking for the white picket fence, plus its 2010, aren't you due for a move by now, sorry but your record shows that!

[Mike Rosseel]

Also Lisa, one more question??? If this mayor of ours is so bad, and the task force you are referring to is over 10 yrs old, how come he has won 2 elections since, and has been Mayor for 25 years, can you say......BECAUSE HE DOES A GREAT JOB!!!!!!!! I am a declared republican and I support the mayor and the two gentlemen running this year, I dont wear blinders, I see whats best for MY TOWN!

[lisa]

Mar 11, 2010 7:21:39 GMT -5 Mike Rosseel said:

Lisa,

Last time I checked moving boxes and clothes weren't reason for a officer to search a vehicle. Sounds more to me like they may have thought he was moving then a drug user or dealer, someting is missing here?

I'm getting my FACTS from people involved in the situation, not from misreading an article like yourself. Our department has and always will work hand and hand with our council. There isn't a false division like you seem to be presenting here. Seems to me like you and other posters on here are trying to spark a question of doubt about the relaionship of our police and our goverment, is that because the two genltmen up for elction this year are the commissioner and assisstant commissioner? oh, point for me! Also, you seemed like an excited resident when John Newman posted on here the other day, why dont you share all your knowledge with him about the "nest" areas you know of!

I believe this statement proves the "turnover" was out of there hands..."Monmouth County Prose-cutor John Kaye confirmed last week that JIT is no longer an operating unit, but said he was not at liberty to say why the local effort came to an end." If the mayor said hey, i like the drugs and gangs in our street Mr Kaye, Im stopping or as you put it washing my hands of this task force, dont you think John Kaye would have got alittle mad? do you know anything about john kaye, well, he was a no nonsense guy who would have nailed the mayor to the cross if he did this, you know why he didnt, because Our Mayor didnt end this task force.

How can I be paranoid Lisa, I post on this site as a visible member with my real first and last name, can you say the same? Doesn't seem as if you can!

So you keep dreaming of this perfect small towm america your looking for, you probaly would destroy it if you found it with false accusations like these against hard working people trying to help our town! Keep looking for the white picket fence, plus its 2010, aren't you due for a move by now, sorry but your record shows that!

Mike sorry but again I never claimed the false division you assume so apt on insisting. So how good are your reading skills? I’m asking questions that you seem to have no legitimist intelligent answer for other than hearsay. Show me FACTS not opinion to prove me wrong you’ve come up with nothing to make me think our town works so well other than your own personal opinion. As far as what I said to Newman go back and read it again. I was simply thanking him for clarification of the subject matter at hand and for updating us on what he’s doing. If that denotes excitement to you, I’d like to know in that case what the difference is in your book between being cordial and being excited. Do me a favor and don’t assume you understand how I feel about anything unless I specifically tell you.

And since you seem to know this town and it’s Mayor so well maybe you can explain to me why in lieu of our present situation with 4 Gangs that are now presently in our town Why is the Mayor NOT asking for the help of the county and reinstating the use of that task force? He did say since this is the county seat he feels the right to ask them for any help he deems required. In case you’re not aware in most cases drugs and gangs do come hand in hand.
In this Wilson legacy that you claim is SOOO GREAT!!!!, So you say…. after he dissolved the Drug task force, and here are the results according to The New Jersey State Police 1.1 to 4.7 Per Thousand people (in 2007) than 5.1 (in 2008). And if you don’t believe violent crime has nothing to do with drugs than you truly are a dreamer

www.njsp.org/info/ucr2007/pdf/2007-sect-7.pdf

Violent Crime
Monmouth County Asbury Park City 2007 21.2
Monmouth County Neptune Twp. 2007 5.9
Monmouth County Freehold Boro 2007 4.7
Monmouth County Keansburg Boro 2007 4.4
Monmouth County Long Branch City 2007 3.5
Monmouth County Red Bank Boro 2007 3.4
Monmouth County Bradley Beach Boro 2007 3.1
Monmouth County Deal Boro 2007 2.9
Monmouth County Shrewsbury Twp. 2007 2.8
Monmouth County Belmar Boro 2007 2.7
Monmouth County Lake Como Boro 2007 2.3
Monmouth County Neptune City Boro 2007 2.3
Monmouth County MONMOUTH COUNTY 2007 2.1
Monmouth County Manasquan Boro 2007 1.8
Monmouth County Union Beach Boro 2007 1.8
Monmouth County Keyport Boro 2007 1.7
Monmouth County Freehold Twp. 2007 1.6
Monmouth County W. Long Branch Boro 2007 1.6
Monmouth County Ocean Twp. 2007 1.5
Monmouth County Aberdeen Twp. 2007 1.4
Monmouth County Allenhurst Boro 2007 1.4
Monmouth County Eatontown Boro 2007 1.4
Monmouth County Atlantic Highlands 2007 1.3
Monmouth County Shrewsbury Boro 2007 1.3
Monmouth County Englishtown Boro 2007 1.1
Monmouth County Howell Twp. 2007 1.1
Monmouth County Roosevelt Boro 2007 1.1
Monmouth County Sea Bright Boro 2007 1.1
Monmouth County Wall Twp. 2007 1.1
Monmouth County Brielle Boro 2007 1
Monmouth County Holmdel Twp. 2007 1
Monmouth County Sea Girt Boro 2007 1
Monmouth County Avon-By-The-Sea Boro 2007 0.9
Monmouth County Spring Lake Boro 2007 0.9
Monmouth County Upper Freehold Twp. 2007 0.9
Monmouth County Little Silver Boro 2007 0.8
Monmouth County Manalapan Twp. 2007 0.8
Monmouth County Middletown Twp. 2007 0.8
Monmouth County Millstone Twp. 2007 0.8
Monmouth County Monmouth Beach Boro 2007 0.8
Monmouth County Tinton Falls Boro 2007 0.8
Monmouth County Marlboro Twp. 2007 0.7
Monmouth County Matawan Boro 2007 0.7
Monmouth County Colts Neck Twp. 2007 0.6
Monmouth County Farmingdale Boro 2007 0.6
Monmouth County Allentown Boro 2007 0.5
Monmouth County Highlands Boro 2007 0.4
Monmouth County Spring Lake Heights 2007 0.4
Monmouth County Hazlet Twp. 2007 0.3
Monmouth County Oceanport Boro 2007 0.2
Monmouth County Rumson Boro 2007 0.1
Monmouth County Fair Haven Boro 2007 0
Monmouth County Interlaken Boro 2007 0
Monmouth County Loch Arbour Village 2007 0


As far as Paranoia and my desire for Privacy? Mike I’ve seen what people particularly from this town have done to others in violating the privacy of others online AND It’s my choice not to get into that. If you have a problem with eat well there’s an old expression GET OVER IT!
and let us not forget that under the Wilson watch....,
* Violent crime in the borough has risen FIVE FOLD in the last 3 years, and
* Collection of municipal property tax's has risen 85% in ten years...

"BECAUSE HE DOES A GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!"
But then again you wouldn’t know or understand about the Taxes BECAUSE YOU DON”T PAY THEM!!!!
"Mayor for 25 years, can you say...... Mike Wilson has done a GREAT JOB ..., making sure he receives THREE pensions, payed for by the tax payers of Freehold Borough and The State of New Jersey..,
1- Mayors pension,
2- Turnpike Pension
3- Manisquan Watershed Commissioners Pension..!!!
One of the states GREATEST tipple dippers!!!
Gee must be nice to know your going to be able to retire to all that money that WERE paying all for what so he can add flowers to the streets in downtown Freehold boro? And accommodate people like you with your Rose colored glasses?
Mike it also strikes me funny you claim to be a republican but yet you don’t support Newman?. Seems you have a habit of speaking of him with some serious contempt. Funny but I happen to be a registered democrat. Despite the fact that when I Vote I vote for the people I think can get work done. Not because I’m trying t kiss someone’s A@@ from what I understand you’ve flip flopped between republican and democratic parties. Follow he leader Mike? Is that what you’re doing for them? Or is it just being a mouthpiece trying to pass on those rose colored glasses that I happen to refuse to wear?
And just a last note Michael I’m choosing to ignore much of what you said because their simple to pathetic in my book to even address. Your sound more and more to me like a drunk on a barstool just shooting the breeze with ridiculous accusations and statements that obviously since you can’t prove have no base in fact!
Mike I DO has a stake in this town. I happen to own property, pay taxes, and my husband actually happens to even work locally. Maybe that’s why I choose reality over a pretty painted picture like you’re doing. Oh and just one more thought……………..As to what this mayor did accomplish in the Rug Mill.
Just another building that most people would call the Projects. Maybe you’re not familiar with what that word is. But to most people in today’s day and age the word denotes FAILURE! Which It obviously is. But I find it rather amusing that most states especially New York have known that all buildings like that have always been a dismal failure. A magnet for crime! Where did that gentleman die? If you remember he was in front of that building. His Hideout maybe?
Mike you seem to so want to put words in my mouth why don't you take some time and try and prove me wrong for a change with some ligitimate facts and back-up proof for a change!!!!!!!
Amaze me??!!!!!!!!!

[jefffriedman]

Lisa,
I would just like to point out that the flowers downtown are paid for by the Freehold Center Partnership/DowntownFreehold.com from the Special Assessment Tax on the Downtown property owners. It does not come from the taxes generated on properties outside the Special Improvement District.

[lisa]

Mar 11, 2010 8:18:53 GMT -5 Mike Rosseel said:

Also Lisa, one more question??? If this mayor of ours is so bad, and the task force you are referring to is over 10 yrs old, how come he has won 2 elections since, and has been Mayor for 25 years, can you say......BECAUSE HE DOES A GREAT JOB!!!!!!!! I am a declared republican and I support the mayor and the two gentlemen running this year, I dont wear blinders, I see whats best for MY TOWN!

Mike ya know something I didn’t vote for him. To be honest when I first moved into this town I was actually very sick. Had been for 5 years before and for another 5 after I got here. It was never even a thought of who the mayor was. Much less even a thought of him considering they claim there’s no cure for what I had. So needless to say I was somewhat self involved. Once I was over it is when I started taking a good hard look at this town. If I had been capable to vote for him trust me I wouldn’t have. Then as well as now I can't see one darn good thing he's actually done for Freehold boro. Does he think its okay for the county seat of Monmouth County to look like a slum? Because that’s exactly it's starting to look like. Since I've moved in it seems like the run down shackles of landlord owned houses is looking worse and worse. When I first moved to my own block it was very pretty. I was very content to live here. Now I'm surrounded on both sides of my home by landlord owned property’s. On one side I have to deal with over run weeds and brush that I personally have to fight with keeping it away from me and my dogs for the amount of Poison Ivy. On the other side another mess of feral cats taking over the property that was just recently purchased. I'm praying THAT landlord will do what he's supposed to do to rectify how bad a house left abandoned for 2 years looks. Don't even get me started about downtown. A town that’s being taken over by Bodegas and Latin supermarkets where rt 79 is looking more and more like a slum every day. That happens to be a county road mike and one of the first impressions people have when they come into this town. Personally I find it embarrassing with store fronts either vacant or covered over with cardboard. The only thing missing is the graffiti. Then you get into town Streets teaming with people that barely speak English. A town that I’m feeling more and more uncomfortable to walk through. Hispanics’ mostly that I've found don't know how to read street lights or signs. They look at you with contempt and sheer hatred in their eyes. But I guess you wouldn’t see all this your to busy with your neighborhood Pride committee wondering why more people don't want to get involved in a town that’s so obviously going to the dogs. Oh that committee was the Mayors idea also wasn’t it? Funny for the first eight years I lived here I had no idea what it even was. Now that I do? I think it’s a joke!!! Maybe that’s why you have such a problem with what I’m typing Mike, it’s actually part of your responsibility to pass around those Rose colored glasses to everyone in this town and get them to swallow the garbage you spew. Garbage about how wonderful our Mayor is. How Hunky dory everything is even WITH the Gangs and Illegal Immigrants. How our politicians work so wonderfully together to get so much accomplished. But yet you can’t give me one thing NOT one thing to show me how the Mayor is doing such a great job!!! d**n I wish to god you could!!!

[richardkelsey]

I must say -- this is a lively thread. I understand that everyone is getting excited about their relative positions. And, there are lots of facts being thrown around -- which we loved. And, we also love that on this site, our people can discuss difficult issues, exchange views, and tackle subjects no other site does right now. However -- in my duty as moderator -- I would like to ask everyone to remember our over-arching guidelines.

Keep it sane.

The arguments should stand on their own -- no need to instigate ill personal feelings toward each other. Moderating is hard, so help us make it easier by stepping off the gas on the personal digs.

Thanks -- and I enjoy being a spectator to this debate.

[Mike Rosseel]

Lisa,

First things first, my living arrangments are none of your buisness but since like the people you seem to side with want to get personal, i have no issue going there with you. yes, I live in a house in the boro, which I dont own! Why you ask, well Lisa i have something called family values and when my father passed away, my mother didnt feel comfortable living alone in this home. At the time of my fathers death, I owned a townhouse in jackson in the Cooks bridge complex. After my fathers death, I decided to get rid of that and come back home to live with my family who needed me, is that ok with you Mrs. Lisa. And for the record Lisa, who seems to think she is higher then everyone, I pay the taxes here thank you. So whoever you get your information from is half correct, nice try!

Also, lisa once again your wrong, Im not on the neighborhood pride committee. sorry your now zero for 2!

Lisa, how do you know who I voted for when I was in the booth, I am a republican, a republican that thinks the leader of this towns club is a joke. A republican who would rather not vote then to support Ted Miller. Plain and simple Lisa!

And your class really shows lisa, i sound like a drunk on a bar stool, im paranoid, i look through rose glasses, what have you proven here. nothing. You seem to be a loud mouth that only cares about things that benefit yourself. You havent posted with your real name, you hide as an invisible user. Im glad you dislike what the mayor has done in this town, Im glad you support John Newman and Ted Miller. Im glad you are you. I dont get people like you, you have so many wonderful ideas and ways to trash our governing body yet you do nothing about it. you seem more worried if your little princess dog getting poison ivy or not. You have a loud voice, get involved change the town the way only you, ted, newman and brian know how. I will gladly support such a kind person, who is willing to listen to others and present a conversation in a constructive matter. You have my vote, wait i wouldnt know who to vote for because your name isnt on here. Well Lisa, it is Lisa right, I'll be waiting to see your name next to Millers in November! Actually, wait a year or so and run for Mayor, since his job is so easy and he isnt doing anything, in your eyes the next mayor with a pulse is an improvement. I guess you dont like the services this town provides, or the events this town has or even the way true freeholders respect one another. It seems to me outsiders like yourself and Miller, come here and make all this noise but never do anything to change what you see as bad! Keep up the good work Lisa! Freehold lucky to have you!

[lisas84]

Hey, Lisa!
First, the most important thing is your health. I am so sorry you had to endure years of a sickness and hope it's all behind you now.

Second, I honestly didn't know you had such frustration and contempt inside about Freehold Borough. Letting it out is a good thing and hopefully, after venting all this, you will feel a bit more at peace.

I do want to say, though, that the Neighborhood Pride Committee is one of the strongest engines that can rebuild the sense of community and positive human/neighborhood interaction. It's not a joke. They do a lot of good and fun things! It is indeed a "feel-good" committee, and "feel good" has to start somehow, somewhere!

[richardkelsey]

Mar 11, 2010 14:49:22 GMT -5 lisas84 said:

Hey, Lisa!
First, the most important thing is your health. I am so sorry you had to endure years of a sickness and hope it's all behind you now.

Second, I honestly didn't know you had such frustration and contempt inside about Freehold Borough. Letting it out is a good thing and hopefully, after venting all this, you will feel a bit more at peace.

I do want to say, though, that the Neighborhood Pride Committee is one of the strongest engines that can rebuild the sense of community and positive human/neighborhood interaction. It's not a joke. They do a lot of good and fun things! It is indeed a "feel-good" committee, and "feel good" has to start somehow, somewhere!

Lisa84,

I always feel uplifted after reading one of your posts.

[lisas84]

Thank you SO much, Richard! That really means so much to me!

[richardkelsey]

Okay -- Mike, you were probably writing your post while I was posting mine.

Lisa and Mike.

You both got in shots that are traditionally over the line for us -- and now I'd like you both to step back -- take a few deep breaths, and stick to the arguments without the personal attacks.

Thanks!

[Mike Rosseel]

Rich, I was writting my post and I apologize, i wouldnt have posted it if I saw what you wrote

[Mike Rosseel]

Crime in New Jersey
Crime in New Jersey
State Police Uniform Crime Report Rankings


Page 1 of 1 [Total records: 100]

Click town name for complete crime detail RANK MUNICIPALITY COUNTY VIOLENT
1 Jersey City HUDSON 3,180
2 Newark ESSEX 2,956
3 Camden CAMDEN 1,686
4 Trenton MERCER 1,526
5 Paterson PASSAIC 1,445
6 Irvington ESSEX 1,397
7 East Orange ESSEX 1,068
8 Elizabeth UNION 834
9 Atlantic City ATLANTIC 772
10 Vineland CUMBERLAND 722
11 Passaic PASSAIC 684
12 Plainfield UNION 517
13 Orange ESSEX 360
14 Asbury Park MONMOUTH 346
15 New Brunswick MIDDLESEX 345
16 Union City HUDSON 325
17 Bridgeton CUMBERLAND 322
18 Woodbridge MIDDLESEX 311
19 Millville CUMBERLAND 241
20 Edison MIDDLESEX 234
21 Bayonne HUDSON 220
22 Winslow CAMDEN 199
23 Gloucester Twp. CAMDEN 195
24 Union UNION 174
25 Pennsauken CAMDEN 173
26 Hamilton Twp. MERCER 172
27 Clifton City PASSAIC 170
28 Perth Amboy MIDDLESEX 169
29 West New York HUDSON 168
30 Lakewood OCEAN 164
31 Neptune Twp. MONMOUTH 151
32 Bloomfield ESSEX 143
33 Pleasantville ATLANTIC 143
34 Morristown MORRIS 142
35 Long Branch MONMOUTH 138
36 Hackensack BERGEN 134
37 Dover OCEAN 133
38 North Bergen HUDSON 132
39 Belleville ESSEX 126
40 Lindenwold CAMDEN 124
41 Willingboro BURLINGTON 121
42 Montclair ESSEX 121
43 Ewing MERCER 121
44 Hoboken HUDSON 118
45 Kearny HUDSON 116
46 Hillside UNION 109
47 Pemberton Twp. BURLINGTON 109
48 Linden UNION 107
49 Cherry Hill CAMDEN 102
50 Deptford GLOUCESTER 99
51 West Orange ESSEX 93
52 Franklin Twp. SOMERSET 93
53 Rahway UNION 89
54 North Brunswick MIDDLESEX 88
55 Seaside Heights OCEAN 87
56 Maplewood ESSEX 85
57 Middle Twp. CAPE MAY 84
58 Galloway ATLANTIC 83
59 South Orange ESSEX 80
60 Hamilton Twp. ATLANTIC 78
61 Washington Twp. GLOUCESTER 77
62 Roselle UNION 76
63 Wildwood CAPE MAY 75
64 Teaneck BERGEN 74
65 Englewood BERGEN 74
66 Garfield BERGEN 73
67 Egg Harbor Twp. ATLANTIC 72
68 Harrison HUDSON 68
69 Glassboro GLOUCESTER 67
70 Paramus BERGEN 66
71 Monroe GLOUCESTER 65
72 Old Bridge MIDDLESEX 65
73 Salem SALEM 64
74 Berkeley OCEAN 62
75 Dover MORRIS 62
76 Piscataway MIDDLESEX 60
77 Sayreville MIDDLESEX 60
78 Wayne PASSAIC 59
79 North Plainfield SOMERSET 59
80 Penns Grove SALEM 57
81 Guttenberg HUDSON 57
82 Lawrence MERCER 57
83 Carteret MIDDLESEX 56
84 Freehold Twp. MONMOUTH 56
85 Fairview BERGEN 55
86 Lodi BERGEN 52
87 East Brunswick MIDDLESEX 51
88 Burlington BURLINGTON 49
89 Evesham BURLINGTON 47
90 Mount Laurel BURLINGTON 47
91 Howell MONMOUTH 46
92 Somers Point ATLANTIC 45
93 Brick OCEAN 44
94 Voorhees CAMDEN 44
95 Pine Hill CAMDEN 44
96 Paulsboro GLOUCESTER 43
97 Woodbury GLOUCESTER 42
98 Jackson OCEAN 42
99 Stafford OCEAN 41
100 Clementon CAMDEN 41



Violent crime ranking.....

[Mike Rosseel]

Crime in New Jersey
Crime in New Jersey
State Police Uniform Crime Report Rankings


Page 1 of 1 [Total records: 100]

Click town name for complete crime detail RANK MUNICIPALITY COUNTY TOTAL
1 Newark ESSEX 16,374
2 Jersey City HUDSON 11,987
3 Camden CAMDEN 6,016
4 Elizabeth UNION 5,974
5 Paterson PASSAIC 5,880
6 Atlantic City ATLANTIC 5,708
7 Trenton MERCER 5,265
8 Irvington ESSEX 4,706
9 East Orange ESSEX 4,591
10 Vineland CUMBERLAND 3,574
11 Woodbridge MIDDLESEX 3,162
12 Edison MIDDLESEX 2,696
13 Passaic PASSAIC 2,303
14 New Brunswick MIDDLESEX 2,175
15 Cherry Hill CAMDEN 2,140
16 Plainfield UNION 2,094
17 Clifton City PASSAIC 2,073
18 Dover OCEAN 1,984
19 Orange ESSEX 1,951
20 Hamilton Twp. MERCER 1,876
21 Union City HUDSON 1,824
22 Bloomfield ESSEX 1,797
23 Gloucester Twp. CAMDEN 1,779
24 Union UNION 1,776
25 Millville CUMBERLAND 1,739
26 Lakewood OCEAN 1,636
27 Neptune Twp. MONMOUTH 1,598
28 Linden UNION 1,573
29 Paramus BERGEN 1,567
30 Hoboken HUDSON 1,521
31 Pennsauken CAMDEN 1,484
32 Deptford GLOUCESTER 1,469
33 Brick OCEAN 1,385
34 Perth Amboy MIDDLESEX 1,370
35 North Bergen HUDSON 1,342
36 Asbury Park MONMOUTH 1,313
37 Wayne PASSAIC 1,306
38 Bridgeton CUMBERLAND 1,298
39 Egg Harbor Twp. ATLANTIC 1,240
40 Kearny HUDSON 1,197
41 Hackensack BERGEN 1,194
42 West Orange ESSEX 1,174
43 Bayonne HUDSON 1,158
44 Washington Twp. GLOUCESTER 1,135
45 Hamilton Twp. ATLANTIC 1,126
46 Lawrence MERCER 1,121
47 Old Bridge MIDDLESEX 1,093
48 Montclair ESSEX 1,080
49 North Brunswick MIDDLESEX 1,065
50 Belleville ESSEX 1,054
51 Ewing MERCER 1,039
52 Freehold Twp. MONMOUTH 1,035
53 West New York HUDSON 1,029
54 Ocean City CAPE MAY 999
55 Winslow CAMDEN 994
56 Morristown MORRIS 971
57 Long Branch MONMOUTH 959
58 Franklin Twp. SOMERSET 954
59 Hillside UNION 905
60 Voorhees CAMDEN 897
61 East Brunswick MIDDLESEX 876
62 Piscataway MIDDLESEX 861
63 Sayreville MIDDLESEX 826
64 Glassboro GLOUCESTER 789
65 Maplewood ESSEX 779
66 Pemberton Twp. BURLINGTON 779
67 Galloway ATLANTIC 778
68 Berkeley OCEAN 769
69 Ocean MONMOUTH 762
70 Pleasantville ATLANTIC 753
71 Lindenwold CAMDEN 748
72 Willingboro BURLINGTON 747
73 Parsippany-Troy Hills MORRIS 747
74 Middletown MONMOUTH 743
75 Monroe GLOUCESTER 734
76 Middle Twp. CAPE MAY 709
77 Secaucus HUDSON 705
78 Mount Laurel BURLINGTON 701
79 Evesham BURLINGTON 695
80 Teaneck BERGEN 689
81 Howell MONMOUTH 668
82 Garfield BERGEN 665
83 Englewood BERGEN 651
84 Millburn ESSEX 645
85 Rahway UNION 640
86 South Orange ESSEX 634
87 Roselle UNION 623
88 Wildwood CAPE MAY 620
89 Bridgewater SOMERSET 616
90 Livingston ESSEX 598
91 Woodbury GLOUCESTER 597
92 North Plainfield SOMERSET 580
93 Jackson OCEAN 575
94 Stafford OCEAN 573
95 Lower Twp. CAPE MAY 565
96 South Brunswick MIDDLESEX 546
97 Eatontown MONMOUTH 545
98 Moorestown BURLINGTON 542
99 West Windsor MERCER 535
100 Lacey OCEAN 528

Still don't see Freehold Boro, but Township is on twice??

[richardkelsey]

Mar 11, 2010 14:57:32 GMT -5 Mike Rosseel said:

Rich, I was writting my post and I apologize, i wouldnt have posted it if I saw what you wrote

No problem -- we all get heated from time to time. You know us -- we are very reasonable. :-)