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Post by admin on Oct 21, 2008 17:36:46 GMT -5
Word on the street is that in the very near future, some of our favorite, but not always upstanding, activists will be making some noise.
Better get your letters to the editor ready if this is true.
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Post by lisas84 on Oct 21, 2008 18:19:42 GMT -5
Brian, this is a little vague. Please give more detail?
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Post by adefonzo on Oct 21, 2008 18:26:56 GMT -5
have we not been "behaving" lately?
One has to wonder what they could be protesting about...we certainly have not gotten any more strict with our local illegal population.
Certainly have not put any new restraints on them finding work on every streetcorner in our town.
Certainly have not busted up any illegal restaurants lately.
Certainly have not broken up any illegal hostels that are being run in town.
Certainly have not done anything to deny their children of a (more accurately for them) "free" public education.
Certainly have not denied them or their legal compatriots of a day of celebrating their latino culture and heritage.
Certainly have not reached out openly and publicly to our County Sheriff to endorse her seaking to implement that tired old 287g program (at least, not to my knowledge - key words being openly and publicly)
Certainly have done nothing to drive out or at least make things more difficult for the businesses that continue to illegally hire the illegal immigrants. (or for that matter pursue what avenues may be available to that end)
Certainly have not even done anything publicly to try to advocate for increased means to even find out if they are illegal!!
Certainly have done nothing (again, that I am aware of) to make their lives any more uncomfortable than they have been for the past several years...
EUREKA!!!! That must be it!!! We're not doing enough on our part to assimilate and accept the illegal population in town!!! The responsibility clearly falls on us!!!
Pardon my mood...it's been a rough day at work...
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Post by novillero on Oct 21, 2008 19:55:39 GMT -5
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Post by admin on Oct 22, 2008 4:56:03 GMT -5
have we not been "behaving" lately? One has to wonder what they could be protesting about...we certainly have not gotten any more strict with our local illegal population. Certainly have not put any new restraints on them finding work on every streetcorner in our town. Certainly have not busted up any illegal restaurants lately. Certainly have not broken up any illegal hostels that are being run in town. Certainly have not done anything to deny their children of a (more accurately for them) "free" public education. Certainly have not denied them or their legal compatriots of a day of celebrating their latino culture and heritage. Certainly have not reached out openly and publicly to our County Sheriff to endorse her seaking to implement that tired old 287g program (at least, not to my knowledge - key words being openly and publicly) Certainly have done nothing to drive out or at least make things more difficult for the businesses that continue to illegally hire the illegal immigrants. (or for that matter pursue what avenues may be available to that end) Certainly have not even done anything publicly to try to advocate for increased means to even find out if they are illegal!! Certainly have done nothing (again, that I am aware of) to make their lives any more uncomfortable than they have been for the past several years... EUREKA!!!! That must be it!!! We're not doing enough on our part to assimilate and accept the illegal population in town!!! The responsibility clearly falls on us!!! Pardon my mood...it's been a rough day at work... I could have fun with this post, but I will be a good boy. Thank you for saying what needs to be said, Andrew. |
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Post by admin on Oct 22, 2008 4:57:05 GMT -5
Good point. Maybe we can throw a celebration party? Wonder wht if anything will change with court oversight expiring. |
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Post by adefonzo on Oct 22, 2008 6:12:06 GMT -5
I can't help myself... "The directive was hastily crafted in reaction to the murders of three college students in Newark on Aug. 4, 2007, where one of the six suspects was an undocumented immigrant recently released on bail." Correction...he "still is" an undocumented immigrant who had been recently released on bail, and as of early September, he is now indicted of the offense in Newark. "The incident in Newark drew wide public outcry against undocumented immigrants and much criticism of perceived inaction from federal and local authorities regarding immigration law enforcement." Oh...it's not "perceived"...it's real. "Despite the clarity of Milgram's directive, Sheriff Guadagno, perhaps with visions of higher office in mind, has sought to go beyond Milgram's directive under the guise of ensuring that "criminals" are not unduly released for fear of further harm to the community." Well...considering I continue to hear that "Illegal Immigration enforcement is a Federal issue, not a state one", I certainly wouldn't blame Sheriff Guadagno for believing that Federal statute overrules state statute. "This would come at a price that cannot be measured in purely financial terms, although Monmouth County taxpayers would be funding all of the costs of implementation and compliance with the 287(g) program."As opposed to Monmouth County taxpayers (among whom illegal immigrants are not a part) continuing to shell out much more money to continue to support the illegal immigrants by allowing them to continue to use our schools, our hospitals, our public services, etc without contributing their fair share to the system. And I am sure Angel Matos is fully supportive of illegal immigrants being eligible for such programs as welfare, unemployment, and social security...again, costing them nothing, but costing the legal residents of the county, state and country even more money. "The larger price we pay is the diminished trust of law enforcement by anyone not properly documented. The need for communications between local authorities and the immigrant community to ensure effective law enforcement will be completely undermined by the news of Sheriff Guadagno's desire to aggressively pursue expulsion of any and all undocumented immigrants passing through the doors of her jail."First of all...I will state flat out that I am absolutely not a part of the "we" that the author speaks of. Illegal immigrants (I am tired of this "undocumented" nonsense) should fear law enforcement...they are breaking the law. Sheriff Guadagno's choice to "aggressively pursue" illegal immigrants is something that is long, LONG overdue. It's nice to finally see someone around here with the gumption to do something about this problem. "Anyone being held there would presumably be subject to the same scrutiny, but I am concerned that only those demonstrating Latino traits will be targeted. As a Puerto Rican, I am concerned that members of my community will get caught in the mix and subjected to differential treatment as a result. They may even find themselves, as United States citizens, deported to a foreign country as has happened on numerous occasions in the past."Well, members of "your" community who are thrown in jail for some reason will be questioned as to their residency status. If they are legal residents of the United States, and can prove it, they have little to fear. As for the idea that only those demonstrating latino traits will be targeted I have to ask...would that be because some inordinate amount of illegal immigrants are...perhaps...of latino blood? Despite this rumor, police for many years now have been trained, re-trained, and trained again to avoid any type of profiling so I am not sure that this would be as big of a concern as the author makes it out to be (I mean, god forbid we target any specific group even if they are traditionally the overwhelming majority of offenders - it's better that we continue to check old women and children at airports rather than young muslim males of middle eastern background - but I digress). "What exactly would Monmouth County gain by this program?"Do I really need to answer this one? "So the question that remains is, does the sheriff already have the necessary processes and procedures to effectively deal with undocumented immigrants by virtue of the existing agreement with ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement)? I believe the answer is a resounding yes."Well, I, and a large number of other folks here in Monmouth County respectfully disagree with your "resounding yes". Obviously the "processes and procedures" that are already in place have not been effective in dealing with the ever growing problem of illegal immigrants in our county (and in particular our town), so more steps needed to be taken...Sheriff Guadagno is the only one I know of who has taken a step in the right direction. "God forbid that an undocumented immigrant fails to report a crime on the order of the Newark murders because of one sheriff's political aspirations, and the fear tactics she intends to employ"Or perhaps they will fail to cooperate with police in such a case...wait, they already do not cooperate with police...I seem to recall a stabbing here in the Boro in which no one in the backyard would cooperate with the police to help them find the person who stabbed another person in a crowded back yard. This tired old story of building better relations between illegal immigrants and police is pure garbage. They are breaking the law!!! They should be fearful of police. This is akin to saying that we should try to develop better relationships between burglars, arsonists, murderers, rapists, etc and police so that they feel comfortable speaking to police without fear of being prosecuted to the crimes they have committed. Garbage...pure garbage. Here's some more interesting reading... www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=research_seriouscrime |
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Post by richardkelsey on Oct 22, 2008 13:18:11 GMT -5
Word on the street is that in the very near future, some of our favorite, but not always upstanding, activists will be making some noise. Better get your letters to the editor ready if this is true. President Obama is going to grant Amnesty and make about 20 million illegals citizens. I guess these folks are just trying to stay relevent until then. |
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Post by admin on Oct 22, 2008 16:55:12 GMT -5
I can't help myself... "The directive was hastily crafted in reaction to the murders of three college students in Newark on Aug. 4, 2007, where one of the six suspects was an undocumented immigrant recently released on bail." Correction...he "still is" an undocumented immigrant who had been recently released on bail, and as of early September, he is now indicted of the offense in Newark. "The incident in Newark drew wide public outcry against undocumented immigrants and much criticism of perceived inaction from federal and local authorities regarding immigration law enforcement." Oh...it's not "perceived"...it's real. "Despite the clarity of Milgram's directive, Sheriff Guadagno, perhaps with visions of higher office in mind, has sought to go beyond Milgram's directive under the guise of ensuring that "criminals" are not unduly released for fear of further harm to the community." Well...considering I continue to hear that "Illegal Immigration enforcement is a Federal issue, not a state one", I certainly wouldn't blame Sheriff Guadagno for believing that Federal statute overrules state statute. "This would come at a price that cannot be measured in purely financial terms, although Monmouth County taxpayers would be funding all of the costs of implementation and compliance with the 287(g) program."As opposed to Monmouth County taxpayers (among whom illegal immigrants are not a part) continuing to shell out much more money to continue to support the illegal immigrants by allowing them to continue to use our schools, our hospitals, our public services, etc without contributing their fair share to the system. And I am sure Angel Matos is fully supportive of illegal immigrants being eligible for such programs as welfare, unemployment, and social security...again, costing them nothing, but costing the legal residents of the county, state and country even more money. "The larger price we pay is the diminished trust of law enforcement by anyone not properly documented. The need for communications between local authorities and the immigrant community to ensure effective law enforcement will be completely undermined by the news of Sheriff Guadagno's desire to aggressively pursue expulsion of any and all undocumented immigrants passing through the doors of her jail."First of all...I will state flat out that I am absolutely not a part of the "we" that the author speaks of. Illegal immigrants (I am tired of this "undocumented" nonsense) should fear law enforcement...they are breaking the law. Sheriff Guadagno's choice to "aggressively pursue" illegal immigrants is something that is long, LONG overdue. It's nice to finally see someone around here with the gumption to do something about this problem. "Anyone being held there would presumably be subject to the same scrutiny, but I am concerned that only those demonstrating Latino traits will be targeted. As a Puerto Rican, I am concerned that members of my community will get caught in the mix and subjected to differential treatment as a result. They may even find themselves, as United States citizens, deported to a foreign country as has happened on numerous occasions in the past."Well, members of "your" community who are thrown in jail for some reason will be questioned as to their residency status. If they are legal residents of the United States, and can prove it, they have little to fear. As for the idea that only those demonstrating latino traits will be targeted I have to ask...would that be because some inordinate amount of illegal immigrants are...perhaps...of latino blood? Despite this rumor, police for many years now have been trained, re-trained, and trained again to avoid any type of profiling so I am not sure that this would be as big of a concern as the author makes it out to be (I mean, god forbid we target any specific group even if they are traditionally the overwhelming majority of offenders - it's better that we continue to check old women and children at airports rather than young muslim males of middle eastern background - but I digress). "What exactly would Monmouth County gain by this program?"Do I really need to answer this one? "So the question that remains is, does the sheriff already have the necessary processes and procedures to effectively deal with undocumented immigrants by virtue of the existing agreement with ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement)? I believe the answer is a resounding yes."Well, I, and a large number of other folks here in Monmouth County respectfully disagree with your "resounding yes". Obviously the "processes and procedures" that are already in place have not been effective in dealing with the ever growing problem of illegal immigrants in our county (and in particular our town), so more steps needed to be taken...Sheriff Guadagno is the only one I know of who has taken a step in the right direction. "God forbid that an undocumented immigrant fails to report a crime on the order of the Newark murders because of one sheriff's political aspirations, and the fear tactics she intends to employ"Or perhaps they will fail to cooperate with police in such a case...wait, they already do not cooperate with police...I seem to recall a stabbing here in the Boro in which no one in the backyard would cooperate with the police to help them find the person who stabbed another person in a crowded back yard. This tired old story of building better relations between illegal immigrants and police is pure garbage. They are breaking the law!!! They should be fearful of police. This is akin to saying that we should try to develop better relationships between burglars, arsonists, murderers, rapists, etc and police so that they feel comfortable speaking to police without fear of being prosecuted to the crimes they have committed. Garbage...pure garbage. Here's some more interesting reading... www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=research_seriouscrime I love it. I don't need to write anything further. ;D |
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Post by leelye on Oct 24, 2008 12:17:35 GMT -5
There may be truth to your rumor.......read on www.app.com/article/20081024/NEWS0301/810240339/-1/NEWS10TRENTON — An immigrant-rights group Thursday asked state Attorney General Anne Milgram to enter discussions aimed at re-tooling part of an order defining interaction between local police and suspects who may have immigration or documentation issues. "Most violations of immigration law are not criminal violations and therefore local law enforcement should not directly or indirectly enforce immigration laws, which occurs when police make immigration-status inquiries and report individuals to ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement)," said the New Jersey Immigration Policy Network report. The issue arises from an August 2007 directive from Milgram that gave the OK for arresting officers to ask people caught driving while intoxicated, or for an indictable offense, if they have immigration issues. If they do, then the officer "shall notify" Immigration and Customs Enforcement. "The problem is you have got so many situations that can be abused," said Charles "Shai" Goldstein, executive director of the Immigration Policy Network. "If she would change the directive, it would be a very good step," said Daniel Santo Pietro, executive director of the Hispanic Directors Association of New Jersey. "We are seeing clear cases of racial profiling," said Maria Juega, treasurer of the Latin American Legal Defense and Education Fund. "Immigrants are increasingly fearful of any contact" with authorities, she said. Milgram spokesman David Wald said he had read the report and said that "local police are not enforcing federal immigration laws" by asking questions and then alerting ICE. He said, though, that "we think that it is important" if a judge is made aware where a suspect resides or if he or she might not reappear for a hearing. "We are working on a training video," Wald said in reply to a part of the report that said training afforded police across the state was badly needed. Tom Baldwin: tbaldwi@gannett.com |
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Post by adefonzo on Oct 24, 2008 13:56:59 GMT -5
NOTICE TO POTENTIAL PROTESTING GROUPS Please...PLEASE...if you are going to stage a protest in our town of Freehold Boro, I beg you to do it on a weekend...this way I will be home, and I can engage in a "meaningful discussion" with you as to why you are so very wrong, and so very useless in truly helping the people that you pretend to be looking out for. I am begging you...PLEASE...if you must protest, do it when I am home. |
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Post by admin on Oct 24, 2008 15:59:41 GMT -5
There may be truth to your rumor.......read on www.app.com/article/20081024/NEWS0301/810240339/-1/NEWS10TRENTON — An immigrant-rights group Thursday asked state Attorney General Anne Milgram to enter discussions aimed at re-tooling part of an order defining interaction between local police and suspects who may have immigration or documentation issues. "Most violations of immigration law are not criminal violations and therefore local law enforcement should not directly or indirectly enforce immigration laws, which occurs when police make immigration-status inquiries and report individuals to ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement)," said the New Jersey Immigration Policy Network report. The issue arises from an August 2007 directive from Milgram that gave the OK for arresting officers to ask people caught driving while intoxicated, or for an indictable offense, if they have immigration issues. If they do, then the officer "shall notify" Immigration and Customs Enforcement. "The problem is you have got so many situations that can be abused," said Charles "Shai" Goldstein, executive director of the Immigration Policy Network. "If she would change the directive, it would be a very good step," said Daniel Santo Pietro, executive director of the Hispanic Directors Association of New Jersey. "We are seeing clear cases of racial profiling," said Maria Juega, treasurer of the Latin American Legal Defense and Education Fund. "Immigrants are increasingly fearful of any contact" with authorities, she said. Milgram spokesman David Wald said he had read the report and said that "local police are not enforcing federal immigration laws" by asking questions and then alerting ICE. He said, though, that "we think that it is important" if a judge is made aware where a suspect resides or if he or she might not reappear for a hearing. "We are working on a training video," Wald said in reply to a part of the report that said training afforded police across the state was badly needed. Tom Baldwin: tbaldwi@gannett.com Good find and it says a lot. Realistically, our Sheriff will likely face a challenge from the state. Our state government wants nothing to do with 287g or any accountability. They will use Milgrims directives as an excuse, but it is a lame one. There is no way a Corzine appointee can be trusted. Corzine is is the pocket of the open borders crowd. If Milgrims directives were so good, wouldn't even our own town council be talking them up more? And lets not forget that farce of a blue ribbon panel on illegal immigration. We should all be thankful that our Mayor's name is not attached to that travesty and sell out. And of course there is Menedez, the most pro-open borders Senator there is. I also hope that readers paid attention to the posts I made on the League of Municipalities. They are openly pushing for sanctuary. I would like to know just how much our own town is following suit. Guadagano will have an uphill battle. She will need mucho support from those of us who crave a morsel of sanity in the illegal immigration mess. I have started my letter, have you, readers? |
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Post by admin on Oct 24, 2008 16:03:30 GMT -5
NOTICE TO POTENTIAL PROTESTING GROUPS Please...PLEASE...if you are going to stage a protest in our town of Freehold Boro, I beg you to do it on a weekend...this way I will be home, and I can engage in a "meaningful discussion" with you as to why you are so very wrong, and so very useless in truly helping the people that you pretend to be looking out for. I am begging you...PLEASE...if you must protest, do it when I am home. Andrew, There is no such thing as meaningful dialog with these groups. Our local history proves that. And any elected leader or citizen who does try is wasting time. Even the papers editorials have said that. The only thing these groups need from us is a boot in the arse, right out of our town. They will never do our town any good. |
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Post by grasshopper on Oct 24, 2008 17:05:07 GMT -5
Word is the protest will be this coming Monday 10-27-08 in front of the Sheriff's Department on East Main Street. Haven't heard what time yet.
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Post by admin on Oct 24, 2008 18:41:20 GMT -5
Word is the protest will be this coming Monday 10-27-08 in front of the Sheriff's Department on East Main Street. Haven't heard what time yet. You are a wise one, Grasshopper. That is the rumor on the street that I have heard too.  |
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Post by botaniseur on Oct 24, 2008 20:09:32 GMT -5
Let them protest...then lock them up for assembling w/o a permit.
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Post by adefonzo on Oct 27, 2008 7:53:06 GMT -5
Andrew maybe you can take Monday off and video yourself giving the protestors a piece of your mind, then post the video here and on youtube! Regrettably, I work Monday through Friday. |
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Post by admin on Oct 27, 2008 8:19:35 GMT -5
The press conference, or what every it is called, will be at 11 AM in front of the Sheriff office
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Post by adefonzo on Oct 27, 2008 9:24:44 GMT -5
Will anyone be able to attend? I would love to hear an update on what happened before tomorrow's papers.
Further...I would hope the papers that are there get interviews not only from those holding the press conference, but also those in the audience...but I am not holding my breath for that.
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Post by admin on Oct 27, 2008 13:33:08 GMT -5
Will anyone be able to attend? I would love to hear an update on what happened before tomorrow's papers. Further...I would hope the papers that are there get interviews not only from those holding the press conference, but also those in the audience...but I am not holding my breath for that. Ted Miller and I were both there. The link above is to the hall of shame. Didn't know where else to put these pics. Readers can make up there own minds as to how many attended. The pics are pretty accurate. I would say the number was about thirty. I agree with you, Andrew, the papers do not always do the best job. We will await the articles. The APP was there, did not see the News Transcript. To be honest, most of it was just chanting " No 287g!" and most of it was in Spanish so I could not understand all of what was being said. Frank Argote Freyre did get up and speak in English for a bit. The general gist is that the groups who marched today are against any measures of 287g's nature. Frank also appeared miffed that the Sheriff did not reach out to him and other like minded groups a bit more. Frank had many very unkind words for the Sheriff. From much of what I heard, it appears the groups today either do not get what 287g is, or they are intentionally distorting it. We did hear the usual nonsense that 287g comes from xenophobia, it is pandering to fear of immigrants, etc. Today we hear 287g is somehow a race based issue that will create profiling and fear. Frank did mention Milgrims directives. The opposition for 287g is based on civil rights concerns, public safety is compromised, and costs to tax payers. |
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Post by admin on Oct 27, 2008 13:37:38 GMT -5
PS-- Freehold Borough was not the focus, but, some guy who's name I did not catch did get up and mention us. He mentioned that he has been active in the fight for illegal immigrants for several years in our town. If I caught what he said the right way, be basically called the people of this town white supremists for having the concerns they do.
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Post by admin on Oct 27, 2008 13:58:09 GMT -5
Interesting images, Brian! However, -- why is Ted, dressed nicely in a suit and holding his lawn sign with pride, under "Hall of Shame?" Not too nice! That's something you should email him to save for his children. Like I said, I wasn't sure the best place to put it. The rally really did not fit well with any of the other pages. It certainly doesn't fit under boro pride! And stay tuned, I have an even better picture of Ted..... |
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Post by lisas84 on Oct 27, 2008 14:04:27 GMT -5
Those guys marching looked happy. Weird.
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Post by bergsteiger on Oct 27, 2008 14:12:33 GMT -5
What does the sign say?  Looks like some letters are missing ;D |
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Post by bergsteiger on Oct 27, 2008 14:15:34 GMT -5
Those guys marching looked happy. Weird. I guess it's more fun then hanging out at the muster zone  |
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Post by admin on Oct 27, 2008 14:36:54 GMT -5
The following is a cut and paste from the Miller/Lichardi press release on this subject.
I would welcome comments from the Borough democrats, but they have made clear that they will not provide information for this community site. Should they change their mind, their thoughts and ideas would be very welcome here by all of us.
For Immediate Release
Lichardi - Miller applaud Monmouth County Sheriff Guadagno for providing real leadership
The Monmouth County 287g implementation can become a model for many other counties through out the US. Sheriff Guadagno's highly appropriate application of the federal 287g program provides local Law Enforcement with an effective enforcement tool while creatively employing modest amounts of resources and expense.
Monmouth County and Freehold Borough, like many other Counties, cities and towns throughout our nation face an open borders and broken immigration system crisis. It is foolishly dangerous for anybody to attempt to deny or begrudge our law enforcement community the needed tools to deal with issues that effectively resolve public safely. Law enforcement officers routinely go through additional training in order to better protect and serve the public. By giving law enforcement additional training for a very real issue we finally have a 287g program that makes sense.
The catalyst for 287g in Monmouth County was the Fort Dix Six, the terrorist who's alleged aim was to "kill as many soldiers as possible". Some members of the Fort Dix Six have been identified as undocumented illegal aliens who are repeat criminal offenders. Sheriff Guadagno's industrious implementation of 287g through the county Corrections Department would have clearly produced early detection and deportation for some members of the Fort Dix Six terrorists.
Because of Monmouth county and Freehold Borough is in close proximity to Ft Dix, McGuire AFB, Earl Navel Weapons Station, Lake Hearst Navel Air Station and Ft Monmouth we need Sheriff Gaudagno's 287g program. This is one reason why Freehold Borough Council Candidates Mike Lichardi and Ted Miller strongly agree with Sheriff Gaudagno's implementation of 287g. It is needed to eliminate the presents of CRIMINAL-undocumented illegal-aliens (key word is CRIMINAL).
Lichardi - Miller squarely disagree with open boarders Advocates who purposefully misrepresent the Federal 287g program though their false claims. The Latino Leadership Alliance and Casa Freehold for example, maintain an established history of misdirecting issues that support self serving fear mongering. Now they will start a baseless champaign of untruths by claiming 287g violates civil right, promotes xenophobia, establish racism, and is too costly. Nothing is further from the truth!
In Monmouth County, the 287g Federal program empowers Correction Department to establish lawful, simple residency status verification of all inmates, period! Through this implementation of 287g, the message is “in Monmouth county, if you are an undocumented illegal alien engage in criminal activity you WILL go to jail and WILL be handed over to ICE for deportation”. Once in our Corrections system and found to be a Criminal undocumented illegal alien, be prepared to be turned over to Home Land Security, and they will deal with you appropriately.
Open Boarder Advocates, like the Latino Leadership Alliance and Casa Freehold have a long record of fighting against common sense measures when safety is jeopardized. We saw this at our local level when they fought against common sense rental regulations. It is no surprise that they again continue to fight against common sense measures like 287g. To show support of criminals in this manner is appalling and reinforces the belief that many naturalized legal Latino and non-Latino immigrant citizens share, that the LLA and Casa Freehold lack credibility.
Sheriff Guadagano is right on, to deliver 287g and sending the right message. We are a nation of laws that must be applied to everyone fairly and equally. She is a Law Enforcement leader that is taking appropriate measures for not only the safety of American citizens, but also of those who reside in our lawful immigrant community. For the LLA and Case Freehold to fight against that is a disgrace.
Every resident of Monmouth county should join Lichardi - Miller and applaud Monmouth County Sheriff Guadagno for providing real leadership that will help keep Monmouth County one for the top US counties in the United States, in which to live.
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Post by admin on Oct 28, 2008 4:26:55 GMT -5
www.app.com/article/20081028/NEWS/810280373/1285/LOCAL09Plan to add immigration checks draws protesters By Kim Predham • FREEHOLD BUREAU • October 28, 2008 FREEHOLD — A crowd of about 60 men and women marched, chanted and carried signs Monday to protest the implementation of a federal immigration program opponents say would be expensive, sow fear in the immigrant community and lead to widespread abuse. Immigrants rights advocates and day laborers gathered at the Monmouth County Sheriff's Office to protest Sheriff Kim Guadagno's application for the federal 287(g) program, which deputizes local law enforcement officers as federal immigration agents. Guadagno wants to train officers in the county jail to check inmates' immigration status. Federal immigration officers already perform prisoner checks for the county jail, but not on an everyday basis, running the risk that some inmates could bail out before officials verify their status. Having trained officers on hand would speed up the process, Guadagno said. "(The program) will help us guarantee that a criminal is not released," Guadagno said after the rally. The program would not extend to officers performing duties like patrols, she said. But protesters feared that the implementation of 287(g) — and the civil rights abuses they believe follow — would not stop at the jail. "To me, it's like opening the door," Casa Freehold coordinator Rita Dentino said. Critics said Monday that the time necessary for training officers would be "extensive" and costly. The program would also cause fear in immigrant communities, preventing some people from reporting crimes out of concern they would be asked about their immigration status. "Let the federal government deal with it (immigration checks)," said the executive director of the New Jersey Immigration Policy Network, Charles "Shai" Goldstein. Guadagno, who did not attend the rally, defended her position. The training will last five weeks and involve three officers already assigned to perform criminal checks. The estimated cost will be $50,000, she said. "I don't know how you can put a price tag on the lives on Monmouth County residents," Guadagno said. The sheriff has previously said that she expects the costs to be recouped if officials identify undocumented inmates. The county is reimbursed $105 per day for every federal prisoner it houses, she has said. As for the possibility of intimidation, Guadagno emphasized that the program would be run only in the jail. Rather than preventing residents from reporting crimes, she said some members of the immigrant community support the idea of keeping criminals off the street. Monday's demonstration was coordinated by the National Day Laborer Organizing Network, but representatives from several local groups — including Casa Freehold, the Latino Leadership Alliance of New Jersey, New Labor and Jornaleros Unidos de Freehold — also participated. Members of the American Friends Service Committee, Wind of the Spirit Immigrant Resource Center and Jornaleros de Passaic also attended. After Monday's protest, the National Day Laborer Organizing Network plans to continue its involvement in the fight against Guadagno's 287(g) plans, according to the network's East Coast region organizer, Sarahi Uribe. Monday's event was part of a national day of protest meant to bring attention to the 287(g) program run by Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Maricopa County, Ariz., which organizing network representatives say has resulted in "severe" civil rights abuses. Protests were planned in 15 to 20 cities, according to Uribe. ON THE WEB: Visit our Web site, www.app.com, to view video of Monday's protest in Freehold and to join in the online conversation about this topic in Story Chat. Kim Predham:
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Post by adefonzo on Oct 28, 2008 6:08:50 GMT -5
There is so much to say on this...I will have to come back later and post my thoughts.
For now, I have to point out that I think Kim Predham did a good job with the article. She presented opinions from both sides, apparently seeking out the Sherriff even though she was not at the "rally". Ms. Predham deserves credit for that.
As for the typical responses from those who held the rally...again, I'll have to comment later...
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Post by admin on Oct 28, 2008 8:20:03 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but the National Day Laborer Organizing Network should only work to teach its constituents how to legally integrate into this country; learn English, learn how to properly get on the path of legal citizenship, perhaps teach better craftsman skills. They shouldn't' be wasting their time and resources on 287G which protects everyone from evildoers. I have a strong feeling the happy-go-lucky day laborers (as shown in Brian's photo) really have no clue as to what's going on and what 287G really means. How infuriating. The only thing I strongly disagree with you about is citizenship. It is one thing to allow people to stay here legally, another to grant them the right to vote after having broken our laws to get here. Beyond that, I agree with much of what you wrote, Lisa. When we look at our town, the illegal immigrants have been here for some time now. There should have been much more in the way of integration at this point. There should have been much more in the way of uniting our town at this point. The fact that we remain divided and have a significant portion of our population not contributing more is a disgrace and a very poor reflection of those who advocate for the illegals. In my meaningless opinion, it demonstrates what a bunch of fake, phony, frauds the advocates are. The above sentiments are not things that should be worked on when, or if, amnesty comes, they should be worked on because it is the right thing to do. AS far as the English issue is concerned, I was told recently that the schools are putting up more and more signs in Spanish. If true, that is the back wards approach and does no favors for the immigrants, legal or otherwise. And if that is true, I don't envision American parents flocking to put their kids into the schools. One thing I do like about this topic, is that GOP Sheriff Kim is standing strong against these advocates. Unlike certain other elected leaders. |
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Looks like some letters are missing ;D