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Post by Mike Rosseel on Dec 22, 2009 17:58:44 GMT -5
How does everyone feel about the LLA? What your opinion? how do you feel?
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Post by admin on Dec 23, 2009 8:27:44 GMT -5
Here is a nice start, a link to their site. It is good reading and provides insight as to what theri goals are. www.llanjmonmouth.org/From the site...... The Monmouth County Chapter of the Latino Leadership Alliance of New Jersey is committed to serving the Latino community on all fronts including but not limited to social services, immigration, health, the arts, education, justice and politics.
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Post by admin on Dec 23, 2009 8:28:49 GMT -5
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Post by admin on Dec 23, 2009 8:44:44 GMT -5
Mike,
To answer your question, I think we need not look much further than the Latino Festival that the LLA hosts on Main Street. I posed the following question about this years festival a couple of months ago....
Question.... This festival looks like it will be a good time. Tons of great food, entertainment and good people. However, with the recent dust up from Casa Freehold and the LLA in mind, people who live in Freehold Borough are well aware that members of those groups are also organizers of this event.
Why would any self respecting resident of Freehold Borough want to come to a party with the very people who always drag our town through the mud? We are good people with valid concerns who deserve far better than what those groups have done to us.
I have always said there are better ideas for Freehold and the Latino culture than this festival. I was right.
It has long been a fact that he LLA cannot get most non Latinos from our town to the festival. The reason is because of the organizers. People in this town do recall all of the hostility that this town has been subjected to and will not party with those who have beat on us the rest of the year.
Getting into the bigger picture, the LLA is a smart group who know what they are doing. They have put Freehold Borough in their sights and have not lost a single battle. We are a sanctuary town and a magnet town for the illegal immigrant population. Unless that magically changes, the LLA will be a dominating political force in this town.
Not long ago, I had someone ask me why the LLA and other groups have not been more civil in the past. My answer was simple. They don't have to be. They know what they want and they are getting it.
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Post by Mike Rosseel on Dec 23, 2009 8:59:21 GMT -5
Brian Thank you for the answer and information.
i understand our council has there hands tied, this isnt a group that they can easily butt heads with, With that being said, maybe the residents of freehold need to come to gether and fight this organization. Maybe we need to say, hey we have rights as legal citizens and taxs payers. I recently had a discussion with a legal immigrant from Italy and she doesnt understand why she had to learn the language, declare citizenship, etc why others can just go and do what they want. Maybe its time for Freehold to stand up itself, i would love to be part of that and see that happen!
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Post by admin on Dec 23, 2009 9:43:25 GMT -5
Brian Thank you for the answer and information. i understand our council has there hands tied, this isn't a group that they can easily butt heads with, With that being said, maybe the residents of freehold need to come to gether and fight this organization. Maybe we need to say, hey we have rights as legal citizens and taxs payers. I recently had a discussion with a legal immigrant from Italy and she doesnt understand why she had to learn the language, declare citizenship, etc why others can just go and do what they want. Maybe its time for Freehold to stand up itself, i would love to be part of that and see that happen! The council doesn't just have their hands tied, they lost and are scared out of their wits. They know it too. I know in the past they tried and meant well, but they did lose. As far a residents coming together, that happened before, led and founded by your buddy Marc. That group also got its clock cleaned and the vast majority of its supporters have since moved out of town. If you ever speak to anyone in town left from that group, not one of them will offer you encouraging words. I think a citizens group is very necessary for many reasons, the super secret landlord groups is another very recent example. When it comes to the illegal immigration issue, I do believe this town needed to form its own Blue Ribbon Panel in response to the governors sham of a panel. I have said this before. It is a fact hat there are conversations that will have to take place in this town. There aer certain realities that have to be addressed. Who ever gets that ball rolling will be the one to dictate the direction and agenda. Will it be the home owners and residents? Outside interests? This town will need to take a good hard look in the mirror. We often hear that some of our problems are because of the federal government, While there is truth in that, there is also tons, and tons of blame that can be cast locally. More on that later.
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Post by Mike Rosseel on Dec 23, 2009 10:04:51 GMT -5
Brian, i somewhat agree. i am aware of the group Marc or as you refer to him my buddy started, liked the idea, didnt agree with there way of working. I have something brewing right now, just waiting on an attorney review to make sure we kno the proper channels we can go after. I have quite a few people ready and willing to get involved. I invite you to join or let people who are interested to email me and i will be more then happy to share the information. Let it be known, this IS NOT A RACIST GROUP, its a group wanting to work with outside groups but has the best interest of Freehold in there heads. Its a voice of our residents, a voice to PROTECT OUR TOWN AND COUNCIL.
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Post by admin on Dec 23, 2009 11:09:39 GMT -5
Brian, i somewhat agree. i am aware of the group Marc or as you refer to him my buddy started, liked the idea, didnt agree with there way of working. I have something brewing right now, just waiting on an attorney review to make sure we kno the proper channels we can go after. I have quite a few people ready and willing to get involved. I invite you to join or let people who are interested to email me and i will be more then happy to share the information. Let it be known, this IS NOT A RACIST GROUP, its a group wanting to work with outside groups but has the best interest of Freehold in there heads. Its a voice of our residents, a voice to PROTECT OUR TOWN AND COUNCIL. Mike, good luck with your group. I will be very interested to see what they do and want to accomplish. Keep us posted. And for the record, Marc's former groups was not racist either, but that did not help them out. Mike, the most important thing you will need for this groups is fresh faces and names. You will also need people who are not affiliated with either political party. That was the big mistake in Marc's group ( after he left), they ran a candidate and in my opinion was the nail in the coffin. You will need people who are neither hostile or in the pockets of the governing body. If you have either leading the charge, the group will be suspect from day one.
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Post by richardkelsey on Dec 23, 2009 14:46:24 GMT -5
I think they are an open-borders, left-wing organization often apparently dedicated to assisting illegal aliens in violation of Federal Law. The group is exclusionary on its site of adverse opinions -- not allowing others to join who do not share their world view.
Judging from its tactics in Freehold, they use the race card to bully soft politicians into policy decisions that are hurtful to lawful residents, including Freehold's valued lawful immigrants from all nations.
Until it changes its tactics of hate, division, race-baiting, and anti-Freehold activities, the group, and its leadership, should not be permitted a seat at any government body policy making table.
That's just my opinion of course.
Having said that -- I respect their right to be dead wrong on every single issue, and to advocate for whatever cause they like, irrespective of its damage to our Country, County, and the town. I do not, however, respect its methods, nor do I have any respect for what I see as its open disregard for Federal Law and the mandates that make it a felony to knowingly assist an illegal alien to enter or stay in the United States.
I'd like to see them denounce illegal entry, and work to make life better for legal immigrants and current citizens. I'd like to see them embrace real diversity, stop spreading hate, and stop counting and dividing by race.
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Post by Mike Rosseel on Dec 23, 2009 17:26:56 GMT -5
"I'd like to see them denounce illegal entry, and work to make life better for legal immigrants and current citizens. I'd like to see them embrace real diversity, stop spreading hate, and stop counting and dividing by race. "
I agree 100%, lets see them help current LEGAL immigrants and better there lives, that would be applauded! Lets see them work hand in hand not against freehold. They have a long way to go to earn the respect and trust of freehold residents after the way they conducted themselves!
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Post by lisa on Mar 3, 2010 18:11:09 GMT -5
I Think it would have been nice if a good hundred or so years ago when my family first came to this great nation they had organizations like this to help cover the butts of the Irish American community I came from. We just learned how to fit into society instead of fight it.
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