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Post by admin on Sept 27, 2008 9:23:24 GMT -5
I have to admit, I didn't watch. I really am not impressed with either of them and I find debates are way too polished. I certainly do not judge a candidate on how they carry themselves on camera. Some of the best leaders were not good in public, and some of the worst were very charismatic.
For the most part, I will be looking at a combination of their records as well as their ideas for the future. I am still leaning heavy toward a third party. Obama will definitely not get my vote.
But, Lisa, it is good to hear your thoughts. Listening to the perspective of the average every day type person is more interesting than listening to the multiple talking heads on Television.
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Post by novillero on Sept 27, 2008 18:20:29 GMT -5
There is only so much debate you can watch.
My thoughts, McCain was weak on the economy and seemed to flounder - alot, at times I wonder if he even knew what he was saying. If elected, I think McCain would do better on the economy than Obama, but he certainly didn't let anyone know last night. Obama makes too many promises to too many people. McCain, I think, just regurgitated what he could remember his experts told him to stay. yuck!
McCain then seemed to finally come into his on when they started talking about foreign affairs. He talked down to Obama - nd he did have that smirk, but Obama rolled over a bit, lost his groove for a a while, kept repeated, "John is right..." - several times. Obama has to stop that in debates, and I bet you next time around you won't hear that from him. Unfortunately, I think both of their opinions flat out stink when it comes to world politics.
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Post by admin on Sept 28, 2008 11:54:47 GMT -5
If you're looking for ace opinions on world politics, it will be very fun to watch Sarah Palin give her Cliff Notes crash course opinions/answers on foreign policy questions. Not to take anything away from her because I actually think she's awesome with tremendous raw political talent, but the fact remains that through her career thus far, she has precious little experience and dialog from which to draw. Ironically, that is the very same criticism that many have leveled at Obama. He really is not very experienced. What little he does have can also be worked against him. He is well aligned with radical left views, something that is not likely to go over well with middle of the roaders. He has already back pedaled on his past voting record with regards to Iraq. Based on what little substance I have seen from Obama, he will destroy our already weakened economy, probably put us in a full out depression. Novillero already highlighted the fact that both candidates are not good on foreign affairs. That is a view I agree with. One stand out issue about Obama that worries me on that topic is our military. We do not need a president who will cut up our forces and decimate our intelligence, just like the last Dem president did. While we do need a very new direction in foreign affairs, we also need to maintain a strong military and intelligence foundation. That is one of the primary responsibilities of the Federal government, not health care and education. Anyway, back to Palin. Her lack of experience is a genuine concern and she is a real gamble for McCain and the nation. But, she may prove to be much more than many think. I will watch that debate. At this time, I think many are really underestimating her. Palin's one very strong point is that she is not a Washington insider. Regardless of what happens she could position herself for many more very good things in the future. There is no doubt that she is a good role model and has a lot of potential. I think of her as the anti-Hillary, and that is a very, very good thing.
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Post by novillero on Sept 28, 2008 15:25:03 GMT -5
Respectfully, Novillero, I disagree with your idea that Obama has to stop saying he agrees with his opponent on certain things. I liked that very much. It shows class and the self-assurance to give some kudos and recognition where and when he feels it is deserved. I like to see a candidate who shows some amount of respect for his/her opposition. It is quite refreshing. If you're looking for ace opinions on world politics, it will be very fun to watch Sarah Palin give her Cliff Notes crash course opinions/answers on foreign policy questions. Not to take anything away from her because I actually think she's awesome with tremendous raw political talent, but the fact remains that through her career thus far, she has precious little experience and dialog from which to draw. I really don't want to watch that train wreck of a VP debate. Expectations are high for Biden - and he can only handily hand Palin her arse, and if he doesn't he loses big. Meanwhile, the Palin expectations are rather low - abysmally low. There is, after all, a reason why she has been kept hidden... and we are slowly finding that our. I liked Palin a lot better before I heard her talk. She either doesn't know what she is talking about, or - like every vice presidential candidate in the history of this nation since the Constitution was changed on the issue of how a VP gets elected - she has sold herself out for the job. Given that on Palin, I still love hearing the Obama gaffes; Palin gaffes, on the other hand, make me cringe.
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