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Post by admin on Jun 4, 2008 17:25:30 GMT -5
newstranscript.gmnews.com/news/2008/0604/bulletin_board/009.htmlNew rental property board will handle Freehold issues BY CLARE MARIE CELANO Staff Writer FREEHOLD - Residents who live in Freehold Borough's 1,900 rental units have a new board looking out for their rights. With the adoption of an ordinance at the May 19 meeting of the Borough Council, officials established a Rental Property Review Board (RPRB). Members of the borough's Human Relations Committee recommended that the RPRB be charged with reviewing the status of rental housing in Freehold with the goal of finding the best ways to protect the health, safety and welfare of tenants, landlords and the community at large. The new panel replaces the former Multiple Dwelling Review Board, which has been relatively inactive for years, according to Councilwoman Sharon Shutzer. She called the new panel a modern, up-to-date version of its predecessor and one that is more in keeping with the needs and concerns of residents. Shutzer said the issues concerning rental units today are different than they were years ago. "For instance, there was no overcrowding (of rental units) 20 years ago," she said. Shutzer said the RPRB will study issues and act as a mediator and, although it is not a decision-making board, its members will make recommendations to the mayor and council and also advise the code enforcement department and other municipal departments. The RPRB will consist of no less than seven and no more than 15 members who are appointed annually by the mayor. The mayor will appoint two tenants, two landlords, one member of the Human Relations Committee, one homeowner, one real estate professional with knowledge and expertise in Freehold Borough and one representative of the code enforcement office (non-voting member). In addition to reviewing the status of rental housing, the purposes, powers and duties of the RPRB include, "establishing procedures to encourage landlords and tenants to restore and maintain structures and rental units to the standards defined by the BOCA code; establish procedures to encourage dialogue between the concerns of tenants, landlords and the community regarding problems affecting all residents; research potential solutions to the complex problems in the rental housing market; serve in an advisory capacity to the building department, code office, Borough Council and all other borough departments in an effort to maintain the character of Freehold Borough and preserve the public health, safety and welfare regarding rental housing." According to the ordinance, the RPRB may also make recommendations to the above entities for the development of polices and procedures, as well as for formal and informal education programs to promote awareness of the housing code, and fire and safety issues affecting rental housing. Reviewing and monitoring landlord compliance with the terms and provisions of any rent stabilization agreement adopted by the governing body is also a part of the new board's duties. In addition, this board will review, investigate and attempt to resolve complaints submitted by tenants concerning building maintenance, services, rent increases, etc., or any other matters affecting landlord-tenant issues. It will also provide a forum for tenants who have complaints. Councilman Marc Le Vine said the RPRB is a wonderful idea. "We're getting a revitalized (board) that has an active membership that sees the entire rental picture in town," Le Vine said. "And the board will be comprised of members who are well positioned to advise on it. "There are many more single-family homes being rented in the borough as of 2008 than there most likely was when the Multiple Dwelling Review Board was originally proposed," the councilman said. "This amended ordinance merges the strengths of both the Multiple Dwelling Review Board and (a previous) Rental Property Advisory Committee and brings them together to address the administration and oversight challenges of today's rental property scene in Freehold Borough," Le Vine added. Maureen Haley, who chaired the Rental Property Advisory Committee which in recent years made a series of recommendations to borough officials, said it remains to be seen how this will all turn out. "Expanding the jurisdiction of this board to include house rentals is important, since many safety and quality of life issues stem from these properties. And, if this new board provides another form of redress for residents to solve these issues, that's a good thing," Haley said.
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Post by admin on Jun 4, 2008 17:32:12 GMT -5
There have been few topics that I have spoken about in council meetings. The above article is about one of them. The night of the rental recommendations I got up and asked if we could have a permanent rental board like the one outlined in the article above.
This past week I went to council and again asked about it. I had heard that there had been some activity in the recent council meetings about what is written above. I got up and asked for clarification and an update. I received a very, very poor response in light of what I read in the article above.
Shutzer specifically addressed my questions. Why didn't I get the right answer?! THIS IS WHAT I WAS ASKING ABOUT!!!
NONE OF THEM COULD HAVE INFORMED ME OF THIS?!!!
I know council members say go to meetings and bring up concerns. Why in the hell am I going to do that when I don't get an answer?!
The answer I got was absolute crap.
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Post by admin on Jun 4, 2008 17:37:18 GMT -5
AND ANOTHER THING!!
The mayor will appoint two tenants, two landlords, one member of the Human Relations Committee, one homeowner, one real estate professional with knowledge and expertise in Freehold Borough and one representative of the code enforcement office (non-voting member).
Why is the home owner being under represented? Only one appointee?!!! That is crap too!!! The mayor and council had better do a VERY good job of reaching to and catering to the home owners who have invested here in our town. Quit kissing the rear ends of the people who do not care about this town. To do otherwise will lead to failure and the last thing we need is to see another good idea go in the toilet.
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Post by novillero on Jun 4, 2008 21:18:57 GMT -5
do you think they gave you the "Tom Baldwin treatment?"
That is when they don't answer the question and pass funny notes to each other while you are talking...
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Post by admin on Jun 5, 2008 5:55:31 GMT -5
do you think they gave you the "Tom Baldwin treatment?" That is when they don't answer the question and pass funny notes to each other while you are talking... I don't know if I got the " Tom Baldwin treatment." I am just really puzzled as to why the content in the article was not mentioned. One would think that when a citizen takes the time to ask some simple questions on the topic, someone sitting up on that council would have wanted to discuss this in further detail. When I asked my questions, I led in with the subject of the Multiple swelling review board, which has been inactive for quite some time according to what I was told. I asked for clarity and updates as to what was happening. I specifically asked if we are going to see a permanent rental board. I really don't like some of what I see in the NT article. I will post further on this later. For now I am trying to find some nice words for my thoughts. |
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Post by quidproquo on Jun 5, 2008 7:47:01 GMT -5
One would think that the CIC would have advanced notification, requested to issue a release like we have started to see.
The entire CIC and the APP were given the Baldwin Treatment. The piece must have been an exclusive for the Mayors favorate media outlet.
How about requirements or qualification for committee members. Specifically will the Tenant member be a tenured resident living here for at least 3-5 years, in the same rental unit with a signed lease and proof of citizenship or proper legal alien status (for example).
Anyone see a public notice asking residents to submit nominations to this committee, or is the NT piece now the notice?
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Post by novillero on Jun 5, 2008 8:40:17 GMT -5
Tom Brian, I don't know what to tell you. QPQ had some good points on this one.
Maybe they don't feel obligated to tell you anything.
Maybe it was all just a simple misunderstanding which you'll laugh about over drinks later, this weekend perhaps.
The important thing is to keep the word "overcrowding" in any news story about the borough.
We really (honestly) had some nice stories about the borough in the past month:
- a good Kruize Night
- historic homes recognized
- the American Hotel progress
- the K-8 "earning kudos"
- tree planting and spring planting
- Memorial Day Parade
Then we have some bad news, a foot in the mouth remark and the ever-present harping on overcrowding. Council needs to develop some euphemisms when talking to the press because it is not always that important to get your name in the paper.
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Post by admin on Jun 5, 2008 9:09:03 GMT -5
do you think they gave you the "Tom Baldwin treatment?" That is when they don't answer the question and pass funny notes to each other while you are talking... When I asked my questions, I led in with the subject of the Multiple swelling review board, which has been inactive for quite some time according to what I was told. I just picked up my typo from this post. While it was an error, it is amazingly appropriate since the population of this town has swelled within the rental community. |
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Post by adefonzo on Jun 5, 2008 12:29:15 GMT -5
There have been few topics that I have spoken about in council meetings. The above article is about one of them. The night of the rental recommendations I got up and asked if we could have a permanent rental board like the one outlined in the article above. This past week I went to council and again asked about it. I had heard that there had been some activity in the recent council meetings about what is written above. I got up and asked for clarification and an update. I received a very, very poor response in light of what I read in the article above. Shutzer specifically addressed my questions. Why didn't I get the right answer?! THIS IS WHAT I WAS ASKING ABOUT!!! NONE OF THEM COULD HAVE INFORMED ME OF THIS?!!! I know council members say go to meetings and bring up concerns. Why in the hell am I going to do that when I don't get an answer?! The answer I got was absolute crap. I must admit...I have a smile on my face as I write this...finally I can sense the frustration in Brian that many of us have felt in regards to our elected Council and Mayor...you can almost see him getting beat red with anger!! Welcome to the dark side, Brian!!! Now...as for why they didn't answer you...you should already know the answer to that question... Our Mayor and Town Council have a history (and I base a lot of this on the words of those who have come before me) of not wanting to be questioned in any regard. There is a long history of "how dare you question us" with our Mayor and Council...so why would you be surprised if they passed over your repeated requests as they did? And certainly, if it were not because of that, it was because they wanted to be sure that they got all of the credit for creating this new board...they certainly would not share any credit with the head of a right-wing web site full of malcontents...or however that quote went... What's worse...mark it down...you heard it here first...this board will be useless. Two years from now, we'll still be looking at the same rental conditions as we have now...the same overcrowding by an illegal immigrant population, who's advocates do nothing to pull these people out of the poor conditions they are living in. Nothing will change for the better in Freehold Boro because of the fact that the Council and Mayor created this board. One last thing...I can't resist... I loved Councilwoman Shutzer's quote... "For instance, there was no overcrowding (of rental units) 20 years ago,"That's right...that's because back then, the Council and Mayor didn't create a situation (aka a muster zone) which allowed a huge influx of illegal immigrants who then started renting property from landlords who starting to pick up properties in town as an easy way to make some extra cash, with no concern about the results of their inactions. Once again...it's not as if this is an issue that suddenly popped up...and once again, the Mayor and Town Council are about 5 years too late with any type of action. Once again, they have decided to do something when the problem has already reached ridiculous proportions. Once again, they have decided to act when it's too late and the problem has already had very drastic, very long lasting, and very real - negative impact on our town. Good work once again guys and gal!!! |
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Post by admin on Jun 5, 2008 13:38:03 GMT -5
Tom Brian, I don't know what to tell you. QPQ had some good points on this one. . QPQ does bring up some good points. There are many good questions to be asked after reading this article. Who the appointees are is the first. If there is any committee where we need to see all FB residents, it is here. We need to have the people who live, breathe and experience all of our town. Not those who live elsewhere and chime in at how wonderful everything is. Maybe they don't feel obligated to tell you anything. Maybe it was all just a simple misunderstanding which you'll laugh about over drinks later, this weekend perhaps.. I would hope they feel obligated to share and discuss public info! And to be very fair here, I have spoke with a couple of people from the governing body and they appear to agree with my concerns. I have no reason to doubt them at this time. We really (honestly) had some nice stories about the borough in the past month: - a good Kruize Night - historic homes recognized - the American Hotel progress - the K-8 "earning kudos" - tree planting and spring planting - Memorial Day Parade Then we have some bad news, a foot in the mouth remark and the ever-present harping on overcrowding. Council needs to develop some euphemisms when talking to the press because it is not always that important to get your name in the paper. All of those stories are great to see in the papers. The better parts of Freehold Borough are being highlighted. I am happy to say the CIC has had a helping hand in some of these things. I know the schools are also trying to improve perceptions which are often wrong. |
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Post by admin on Jun 5, 2008 14:03:54 GMT -5
There have been few topics that I have spoken about in council meetings. The above article is about one of them. The night of the rental recommendations I got up and asked if we could have a permanent rental board like the one outlined in the article above. This past week I went to council and again asked about it. I had heard that there had been some activity in the recent council meetings about what is written above. I got up and asked for clarification and an update. I received a very, very poor response in light of what I read in the article above. Shutzer specifically addressed my questions. Why didn't I get the right answer?! THIS IS WHAT I WAS ASKING ABOUT!!! NONE OF THEM COULD HAVE INFORMED ME OF THIS?!!! I know council members say go to meetings and bring up concerns. Why in the hell am I going to do that when I don't get an answer?! The answer I got was absolute crap. I must admit...I have a smile on my face as I write this...finally I can sense the frustration in Brian that many of us have felt in regards to our elected Council and Mayor...you can almost see him getting beat red with anger!! Welcome to the dark side, Brian!!! Now...as for why they didn't answer you...you should already know the answer to that question... Our Mayor and Town Council have a history (and I base a lot of this on the words of those who have come before me) of not wanting to be questioned in any regard. There is a long history of "how dare you question us" with our Mayor and Council...so why would you be surprised if they passed over your repeated requests as they did? And certainly, if it were not because of that, it was because they wanted to be sure that they got all of the credit for creating this new board...they certainly would not share any credit with the head of a right-wing web site full of malcontents...or however that quote went... What's worse...mark it down...you heard it here first...this board will be useless. Two years from now, we'll still be looking at the same rental conditions as we have now...the same overcrowding by an illegal immigrant population, who's advocates do nothing to pull these people out of the poor conditions they are living in. Nothing will change for the better in Freehold Boro because of the fact that the Council and Mayor created this board. One last thing...I can't resist... I loved Councilwoman Shutzer's quote... "For instance, there was no overcrowding (of rental units) 20 years ago,"That's right...that's because back then, the Council and Mayor didn't create a situation (aka a muster zone) which allowed a huge influx of illegal immigrants who then started renting property from landlords who starting to pick up properties in town as an easy way to make some extra cash, with no concern about the results of their inactions. Once again...it's not as if this is an issue that suddenly popped up...and once again, the Mayor and Town Council are about 5 years too late with any type of action. Once again, they have decided to do something when the problem has already reached ridiculous proportions. Once again, they have decided to act when it's too late and the problem has already had very drastic, very long lasting, and very real - negative impact on our town. Good work once again guys and gal!!! Yes, Andrew, I was red in the face after reading the article that carried the answers to my questions. Like I said, I am puzzled by the response I received at the Monday meeting. That said, I do not give up hope. I have long been fortunate enough to have the ear of some of our governing body. I can say with experience that they have been responsive, respectful, and accessible for me. None will ever agree with me at every turn and I am good with that. At least I know they listen. In the past I expressed concerns quietly about the HRC forum that recently occurred. When I saw that it was geared toward tenants and landlords, asked " what about the rest of us?" After that we saw public declaration that yes, there will be a follow up for the rest of us. In other words, the governing body was responsive and we can now await the next forum. I have had offline conversations about this topic and I am hopeful that we will see something decent come of it. This is one issue where I really don't care one iota about party, politics, or getting any credit. I don't care who gets the credit, as long as the committee gets done the right way. I will be watching this issue very closely. I have long opined that for the rental issue to work, we need to see balance where all three parties are fairly represented-landlords, tenants, and surrounding home owners. I do not want to see any of them left out. IMO, the rental recommendation committee was a good group, with the exception of one person. I believe they were fair and considerate of all parties. I hope that members of that committee will be approached and agree to sit on this new committee. QPQ brought up good points about residency requirements and making sure we see good tenants on that committee. We also need to ensure that who ever sits on that committee is fair and tolerant. The following link is to a letter that shows who should not be on this new committee. ..... newstranscript.gmnews.com/news/2008/0319/Letters/023.htmlWhen we get tenants or landlords sitting on that committee, let us hope that they are there to represent the true interest and not that of radical groups who continue to hurt our town. We know the home owners in this town are seeking fairness, it is not much to ask of others. |
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Post by adefonzo on Jun 6, 2008 6:01:41 GMT -5
When we get tenants or landlords sitting on that committee, let us hope that they are there to represent the true interest and not that of radical groups who continue to hurt our town. We know the home owners in this town are seeking fairness, it is not much to ask of others. Brian...I agree with most of what you say above...and I admire the fact that you still seem to hold out faith for our governing body...Unfortunately, I have been tied to this town for over 30 years...I have bared witness to the entire 20+ years of our current Mayor...I have known, and still know, many who have come before any of us and tried to make changes that would produce real results, all of whom have been shot down by our governing body...I have no faith left in our governing body so long as certain members of it are still on it and in control. I believe that their words are hollow and meaningless...how many times do we have to listen to them talk today about problems that have come up in this town, without taking ownership of the fact that many of those problems were caused by their own actions and inactions? It's grandstanding at it's finest...and I have simply gotten to the point where I don't believe a word coming out of their mouths. Good solid public servants (which by the way...that's what elected officials really are when you boil it all down) act and get things done...they don't talk, form committees, put people on those committees who will be sure to keep the status quo, and look for every excuse in the books as to why they can't do something rather than searching for ways that they can. Tell you what...I'll hope and pray that this committee does some real good for our town...I really hope the Mayor appoints people who will be good solid public servants. But if history is any indicator...this committee will be filled - at least in part - by people like the one who wrote that letter that you cited...all because groups like the one Mr Cardenas belongs to, will bully this Mayor and Town Council into ensuring that their concerns are met by having people who "represent" a certain faction of people who live in our town on that committee. But maybe I'll drink the Kool-Aid just this once, follow your example, hope for the best, and believe that there is still potential for good in regards to our town leaders. |
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Post by admin on Jun 6, 2008 7:17:51 GMT -5
When we get tenants or landlords sitting on that committee, let us hope that they are there to represent the true interest and not that of radical groups who continue to hurt our town. We know the home owners in this town are seeking fairness, it is not much to ask of others. Brian...I agree with most of what you say above...and I admire the fact that you still seem to hold out faith for our governing body...Unfortunately, I have been tied to this town for over 30 years...I have bared witness to the entire 20+ years of our current Mayor...I have known, and still know, many who have come before any of us and tried to make changes that would produce real results, all of whom have been shot down by our governing body...I have no faith left in our governing body so long as certain members of it are still on it and in control. I believe that their words are hollow and meaningless...how many times do we have to listen to them talk today about problems that have come up in this town, without taking ownership of the fact that many of those problems were caused by their own actions and inactions? It's grandstanding at it's finest...and I have simply gotten to the point where I don't believe a word coming out of their mouths. Good solid public servants (which by the way...that's what elected officials really are when you boil it all down) act and get things done...they don't talk, form committees, put people on those committees who will be sure to keep the status quo, and look for every excuse in the books as to why they can't do something rather than searching for ways that they can. Tell you what...I'll hope and pray that this committee does some real good for our town...I really hope the Mayor appoints people who will be good solid public servants. But if history is any indicator...this committee will be filled - at least in part - by people like the one who wrote that letter that you cited...all because groups like the one Mr Cardenas belongs to, will bully this Mayor and Town Council into ensuring that their concerns are met by having people who "represent" a certain faction of people who live in our town on that committee. But maybe I'll drink the Kool-Aid just this once, follow your example, hope for the best, and believe that there is still potential for good in regards to our town leaders. Andrew, I always try to put faith in people. Make no mistake, though, when it comes to any government I always carry skepticism and at best, cautious optimism. I have been around government long enough that I never believe anything until I see it. And once in a blue moon, government does deliver. I agree actions are what count, words are just that. I understand and respect your frustration. You have enlightened me on a few things. But, I believe there is little choice but to put faith in the governing body. They are who we have to work with. This is where reality check comes in. We will not see any opposition such as the GOP get on that council in the near future. I also believe that at least a couple of them are trying to do the right things. I personally refuse to burn bridges with any one or demonize them. I am at peace with the fact that I will never agree with any person or elected leader all the time. I am on record on this site as being critical of several things that the council has done. I disagree with what was done with the Drug Mill, the opening of the muster zone, they way illegal immigration has been handled here- and is still being handled. I disagree with the council giving one red cent to a medical facility that predictably turned into a regional magnet for illegal aliens. And of course, I am on record here for certain appointments. I believe that at this point, there is a really nasty track record from certain elements that the Mayor and council would be extremely foolish to entertain further appointments from that element. Andrew, you wrote...... ...how many times do we have to listen to them talk today about problems that have come up in this town, without taking ownership of the fact that many of those problems were caused by their own actions and inactions? Your assessment here is good and fair. Are any of the governing body or Mayor on record as saying that they have made mistakes? This year it will not happen because of the race, but they have made errors. Many of us will continually point that out so long as it is fair and constructive. We will say to them " we told you so" This issue surrounding the new committee is one that is going to be watched. It is too important not to be. If even one person from that certain fringe makes his way to the new committee, we will have complete failure and make no mistake, I will be a very open critic. Like I said, I think some of them really mean well and I am not going to burn bridges. There is no good in that. If there is one thing that I believe and will say "I told you so" in the future, it is that with the way things are going now, the people who sued our town will take over the reigns of power on that council in a few short years, not the GOP. That is directly due to how the current governing body is conducting themselves, be it intentional or not. I hope the governing body realizes this and starts to listen a bit more before that happens. |
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Post by lisas84 on Jun 6, 2008 7:36:11 GMT -5
I have to chime in here. After reading all this, I am distressed.
There is a much better alternative out there to Kool-Aid, which offers nothing of nutritional value.
Emergen-C not only is a delicious powdered drink -- just add water -- there is more than a dozen varieties that provide you with high-dose vitamin C and some other targeted nutrients. So, people, I urge you to kick Kool-Aid out the door and stock up on Emergen-C, you can get it pretty much everywhere vitamins are sold.
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Post by stffgpr2003 on Jun 6, 2008 9:37:25 GMT -5
OK...I've got to set the record straight on this one, even though I already discussed the whole matter with Brian, already.
Here's is the crux of this - Brian was not especially clear in asking his question at the council meeting on Monday night and I think he realizes this now.
Brian asked - "who will serve on the new committee?' The answer right now TO THAT QUESTION (as he asked it) is that we do not really know "who" they will be.
I DO hope that some of our former RPAC members agree to come back. So far, only one has expressed an interest to me. Some new blood would also be nice, too, so as to bring some new ideas to the table.
What Brian probably meant to ask was "what will be the makeup of the new committee?" Had he asked his question THAT WAY, we probably would have cited the passage in the ordinance that Clare pulled out and published in her newspaper - though it is missing a couple of important words that were accidentally left off and missed - "a minimum of..."
Now, realize that the committee "makeup" passage was a cut and paste from the old ordinance that created the former RPAC. Those words were left off back when that committee was formed and no one picked up on it. I probably should have, but was too excited about what the commitee was going to be able to do.
Also, realize that the vast majority of that committee did a great job making 17 recommendations (two more came after the committee made the original 15). I didn't think you'll find much criticism of the terific job Maureen Haley and company did for our town, either. As for the "makeup" of that committee. In truth, the two tenants from Rug Mill Towers appointed to the RPAC stopped showing up after the third or fourth meeting and we couldn't find suitable replacements. So, we went on with who we had. Sometimes, reality dictates these things and you move on. Look - our Chair John Newman walked away in the middle and Maureen Haley moved over to save the day!
Homeowners will DEFINATELY be well represented on the modified MDRB. This was the intent all along and I will not vote for a makeup that does not include a few of them. I also know that I am not alone in this thinking either.
This thing was totally blown out of proportion. Many of you know me pretty well and know that when you ask me something you get a straight answer (unless its executive session sort of stuff - police investigations and the like).
No one has to like me or even trust me - but, I have a pretty good track record for being honest and getting results in what ever I do (see below). I also believe in the people I serve with on council. They are decent people and we have all volunteered for a tough job that many others wouldn't even try to tackle, but are quick to criticize.
Marc's name choice for his company is particularly appropriate: On top of outstanding professionalism and great aptitude, Marc has always displayed, on the several client engagements we shared, the highest level of integrity - in addition to a wonderful sense of humor.” April 15, 2008
Val Golan, Owner, GoLAN Consulting, Inc. was with another company when working with Marc at Integrity Consulting Associates
Marc
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Post by novillero on Jun 6, 2008 10:04:51 GMT -5
Brian asked - "who will serve on the new committee?' ... What Brian probably meant to ask was "what will be the makeup of the new committee?" Had he asked his question THAT WAY... Brian, you have now been educated in the art of nuanced politics. It really comes down to what you think the definition of "is" is... |
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Post by stffgpr2003 on Jun 6, 2008 10:15:22 GMT -5
Nov -
You give us too much credit. We're not that smart! If we were, we'd be in Trenton or Washington, by now! LOL!!!
Marc
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Post by adefonzo on Jun 6, 2008 12:51:05 GMT -5
OK...I've got to set the record straight on this one, even though I already discussed the whole matter with Brian, already. Here's is the crux of this - Brian was not especially clear in asking his question at the council meeting on Monday night and I think he realizes this now.
Brian asked - "who will serve on the new committee?' The answer right now TO THAT QUESTION (as he asked it) is that we do not really know "who" they will be. I DO hope that some of our former RPAC members agree to come back. So far, only one has expressed an interest to me. Some new blood would also be nice, too, so as to bring some new ideas to the table. What Brian probably meant to ask was "what will be the makeup of the new committee?" Had he asked his question THAT WAY, we probably would have cited the passage in the ordinance that Clare pulled out and published in her newspaper - though it is missing a couple of important words that were accidentally left off and missed - "a minimum of..." Now, realize that the committee "makeup" passage was a cut and paste from the old ordinance that created the former RPAC. Those words were left off back when that committee was formed and no one picked up on it. I probably should have, but was too excited about what the commitee was going to be able to do. Also, realize that the vast majority of that committee did a great job making 17 recommendations (two more came after the committee made the original 15). I didn't think you'll find much criticism of the terific job Maureen Haley and company did for our town, either. As for the "makeup" of that committee. In truth, the two tenants from Rug Mill Towers appointed to the RPAC stopped showing up after the third or fourth meeting and we couldn't find suitable replacements. So, we went on with who we had. Sometimes, reality dictates these things and you move on. Look - our Chair John Newman walked away in the middle and Maureen Haley moved over to save the day! Homeowners will DEFINATELY be well represented on the modified MDRB. This was the intent all along and I will not vote for a makeup that does not include a few of them. I also know that I am not alone in this thinking either. This thing was totally blown out of proportion. Many of you know me pretty well and know that when you ask me something you get a straight answer (unless its executive session sort of stuff - police investigations and the like). No one has to like me or even trust me - but, I have a pretty good track record for being honest and getting results in what ever I do (see below). I also believe in the people I serve with on council. They are decent people and we have all volunteered for a tough job that many others wouldn't even try to tackle, but are quick to criticize. Marc's name choice for his company is particularly appropriate: On top of outstanding professionalism and great aptitude, Marc has always displayed, on the several client engagements we shared, the highest level of integrity - in addition to a wonderful sense of humor.” April 15, 2008Val Golan, Owner, GoLAN Consulting, Inc. was with another company when working with Marc at Integrity Consulting AssociatesMarc Brian...I hope you will respond to Marc's post. In particular the area I highlighted in blue... In reading your initial posts, I understood it to mean that you asked again about the actual idea of forming this committee since you had heard rumors of such in recent weeks. According to Marc, your questions were a bit more precise in regards to who will be serving on the committee. Marc...I wonder why, if you were able to guess what Brian was perhaps trying to ask ("what will be the makeup of the new committee")...why didn't yourself or another Council member step up and suggest that to him, and then answer that question? Also, since you mentioned "that the committee "makeup" passage was a cut and paste from the old ordinance that created the former RPAC. Those words were left off back when that committee was formed and no one picked up on it. I probably should have, but was too excited about what the commitee was going to be able to do."...I trust that there will be an agenda item on a council meeting in the very near future that adds an amended passage to the bill that formed the committee, so that it has the proper wording. |
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Post by admin on Jun 6, 2008 13:19:56 GMT -5
Andrew wrote..
Brian...I hope you will respond to Marc's post. In particular the area I highlighted in blue...
In reading your initial posts, I understood it to mean that you asked again about the actual idea of forming this committee since you had heard rumors of such in recent weeks. According to Marc, your questions were a bit more precise in regards to who will be serving on the committee.
At this point I have received the answers I was seeking. The big question for me was are we going to have a board to deal with the rental issues? I have no reason to believe that Marc is, or has, tried to disregard or deflect my concerns. At this point I consider him a straight shooter. I have also had some responses and back and forth with others of interest. All have appeared to give me straight up answers. I am satisfied with that.
At the council meeting I thought I was clear in asking if we are getting a rental committee. Shutzer did explain the changes in the MDRB to include all rentals. All that was lacking in the info I got was that we are supposed to see an active board, not the one that has been inactive.
And to again, recap why I was puzzled. I brought these issues up only to see a news paper article the next day with the content I sought. Why did no council person make mention of it? I provided a really nice opening for a good thing.
Is there a possibility that I was not clear? Maybe. I will give the benefit of the doubt. I know I am a lousy public speaker. The fact remains I got my answers. The next step for me is to watch this issue and follow up on it.
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Post by novillero on Jun 6, 2008 13:26:30 GMT -5
Maybe it was all just a simple misunderstanding which you'll laugh about over drinks later, this weekend perhaps. see, I was right. |
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Post by stffgpr2003 on Jun 6, 2008 13:41:03 GMT -5
Brian...there would be no reason that I can think of to hide anything from you or anyone else on this, because "it is what it is" -a reformultion of a dinosaur committee, infused with the viability of a successful one that is designed for and geared to our present rental property needs.
I am very sorry that I couldn't figure out what you were getting at and didn't respond to what you were trying to ask at the meeting(which we know now). If I ever do that to you, again - please smack me beside my head! Since the MDRB is Councilwoman Shutzer's liaisonry, I suppose I didn't want to answer for her. We all respect each other's appointments. Realize that she has been liaison to a "Dinosaur" committee that hasn't met in 15 years and all of a sudden she has a newer, former committee rolled into it that I've been involved with since its inception - I actually recommended it (the RPAC) and recruited members for it, so it's all a second nature to me.
Sharon will need some time to get up to speed with the new committee and as Simon Cowell might say - "make it her own." And, she will. Of course, the rest of Council is there to support her and I am still liaison Code Enforcement. So, we will be workng very closely together on this one.
You are very right, Brian. We will ALL see how the new committee works out and we will help it succeed anyway we can. But, isn't it good that we have this new committee? That's what you and many others wanted and Mayor and Council knows we need it. Maureen and the other former RPAC apparently are in agreement, because they recommended that we bring the RPAC back in some fashion - and we have.
And, the correction that Andrew is expecting in the ordinance was already planned and should have been on Monday's agenda. I understand we will make it a done deal when we meet again. More importantly, we intend to have MORE THAN A COUPLE OF HOMEOWNERS on the committee as I advised, earlier.
Marc
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Post by richardkelsey on Jun 6, 2008 16:05:21 GMT -5
I'd like to state -- with some degree of delight -- that I know nothing abut this issue, and I have no opinion.
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Post by admin on Jun 8, 2008 16:29:32 GMT -5
I changed the title of this thread a moved it to a more appropriate location. I received a very good and open response from some good people. That is all I can ask for.
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Post by admin on Jul 17, 2008 7:32:20 GMT -5
the saga continues...... www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080717/NEWS01/807170500/1004FREEHOLD — A newly created rental property review board is being set up, said the borough councilman who helped bring it into existence. "The pieces have to be put together," said Marc Le Vine, who served as council liaison to the now-disbanded Rental Property Advisory Committee. The committee had been tasked with reviewing the status of rental housing in the borough and presenting recommendations for ways to protect the health, safety and welfare of tenants, landlords and the community. The committee presented its report in February 2007. In subsequent discussions, committee members determined there was a need in the borough for a permanent board that would continue the committee's work, Le Vine said. An ordinance passed in May aims to do just that by expanding an existing multiple dwelling review board. The new group, called the Rental Property Review Board, is to consist of a cross-section of people including borough tenants, landlords, a homeowner, a member of the Human Relations Committee, a real estate agent with knowledge of Freehold and a nonvoting member from the town code enforcement office. Previously, the borough's multiple-dwelling review board only mediated landlord and tenant complaints and — as the name suggests — focused on the multiple-dwelling rental properties in town, Le Vine said. The new board will reach beyond that scope to deal with all rental properties in the borough, Le Vine said. The board also has more duties now, which were outlined in the ordinance creating the group. Those duties include the responsibility to establish procedures to promote dialogue between landlords, tenants and the community about problems; to encourage landlords and tenants to restore and maintain their structures and rental properties; and to review and monitor landlord compliance with rent stabilization agreements. Board members also will be tasked with reviewing the status of rental housing in the borough, researching solutions to rental housing problems and trying to resolve tenant complaints. The board will advise borough departments and the governing body, and can make recommendations for any policies, programs and educational programs that members deem necessary, according to the ordinance. The board will not have enforcement powers, Le Vine said. The board must meet at least four times a year and make an annual report to the governing body in December, according to the ordinance. Kim Predham: (732) 308-7752 or kpredham@app.com |
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Post by admin on Nov 6, 2008 7:20:10 GMT -5
New panel will keep tabs on rental units BY CLARE MARIE CELANO Staff Writer FREEHOLD — The Borough Council has appointed eight members to Freehold Borough's new Rental Property Review Board (RPRB). The board was established by ordinance in May and the members were appointed earlier this month. The RPRB will be charged with reviewing the status of rental housing in Freehold Borough with the goal of finding the best ways to protect the health, safety and welfare of tenants, landlords and the community at large. The new panel replaces the former Multiple Dwelling Review Board, which has been relatively inactive for years, according to Councilwoman Sharon Shutzer. In a previous interview with the News Transcript, Shutzer said the issues concerning rental units today are different than they were years ago. She cited the overcrowding of rental units as one current concern. She said the RPRB will study issues and act as a mediator. Although the RPRB is not a decision-making board, its members will make recommendations to the mayor and council and also advise the code enforcement department and other municipal departments. According to the ordinance that created the RPRB, the board will consist of a minimum of the following: two tenants, two landlords, one member of the borough's Human Relations Committee, one homeowner, one Realtor and one representative of the borough's code enforcement office. Mayor Michael Wilson and the Borough Council appointed the following members to the board: Ismael Castro, (present member of the Human Relations Committee), Maureen Haley (homeowner,) Tom Parke (homeowner), Richard Sobin, (landlord of a Freehold Borough apartment complex), Gary Gravatt, (homeowner), Lisa Kristiansen (Realtor), Reggie Sims, (homeowner) and Marie Chapman (landlord and homeowner). A member of the code enforcement office will attend meetings of the RPRB. Councilman Marc Le Vine has said the RPRB "merges the strengths of both the (former) Multiple Dwelling Review Board and (a previous) Rental Property Advisory Committee and brings them together to address the administration and oversight challenges of today's rental property scene in Freehold Borough." He said he hopes the members of the RPRB can meet in November. "The new Rental Property Review Board will address all rental property concerns and is now also able to mediate and hopefully settle many landlord-tenant disputes," Le Vine said. "This should help to free up municipal court time and save taxpayer dollars. We will be communicating the board's availability for this purpose to all landlords and tenants throughout the borough. We expect them to avail themselves of this great benefit," the councilman added. Le Vine said the board will be expected to stay on top of the "entire and ever-changing rental properties situation in town" and work closely with the council and our code enforcement department to recommend new and amended ordinances, strict policies and effective enforcement practices, all of which will help ensure fairness and safety, not only for landlords and tenants, but for the neighboring homeowners." There are 1,900 rental units in Freehold Borough. In addition to reviewing the status of rental housing, the purposes, powers and duties of the RPRB include, "establishing procedures to encourage landlords and tenants to restore and maintain structures and rental units to the standards defined by BOCA code; establish procedures to encourage dialogue between the concerns of tenants, landlords, and the community regarding problems affecting all residents; research potential solutions to complex problems in the rental housing market; serve in an advisory capacity to the building department, code office, Borough Council and all other borough departments in an effort to maintain the character of Freehold Borough and preserve the public health, safety and welfare regarding rental housing." The board may make recommendations to the above entities for the development of policies and procedures, as well as for formal and informal education programs to promote awareness of the housing code, and fire and safety issues affecting rental housing. The board will also review, investigate and attempt to resolve complaints submitted by tenants concerning building maintenance, services, rent increases, etc., and any other matters affecting landlord-tenant issues. It will also provide a forum for tenants who have complaints. newstranscript.gmnews.com/news/2008/1105/front_page/019.html |
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Post by admin on Nov 6, 2008 7:37:52 GMT -5
This thread was a perfect place to put the above updated article. The back and forth in this thread is a good reminder. Clearly I am a supporter of this new board. I have been calling for it for almost two years. Recently I went to town hall and obtained a copy of the ordinance establishing this new committee as well as who was appointed. I do not know all of the people, but am satisfied with these appointments. One thing that is ommitted from the article above. Councilman Le Vine is the council rep for this committee. Shutzer was the rep for the MDRB. Nothing against Shutzer, but Le Vine is the best choice for this new committee. Rental issues have been his baby and he has spearheaded much of the efforts in this town. It is only right that he is given the opportunity at the required follow through. Needless to say, I will continue watching this issue like a hawk. I also have the fullest expectation that the issues surrounding the rental plague in our town will be transparent. For now, I will leave this thread with a cut and paste from a recent post I made. freeholdvoice.proboards46.com/index.cgi?board=republican&action=display&thread=3961This is one of those posts where I waited a couple of days to post. I really need to find the right words and try not to get nasty with this. I have to admit, when I saw what has been hitting the papers, I cannot say that I am impressed. If I were an opponent of the governing body, I would certainly whack them upside the head for the nonsense I am seeing. If nothing else, what I am about to write would certainly make for a wonderful letter to the papers instead of just posting this on a site with a handful of malcontents.
I will also do something that I rarely do, toot my own horn and say, I was right. They ( council) should have listened.
Obviously, by the first post in this thread, I am talking about the new ( old?) rental board. I have been a long time supporter of this concept. Lets first establish some facts.
I have been on record at council meetings, in the papers and here on the FV as a very vocal and concerned individual on these issues.
I have clearly stated that for rental recommendations and ordinances to work, there has got to be balance, including all three affected parties- tenants, landlords, and the surrounding home owners. I have clearly stated that none should be forgotten.
I am well on record as supporting the governing body when they take the right actions, and at times they do. I will continue to support them and always try to work with them when they are doing the right things. I know they are good people with quality character and integrity, and do care passionately about doing what is good for this town.
So why my dissatisfaction? That brings me to my next point. This new rental board should not be new. When I read this in the papers, I thought what new board? Who is on it? When do they meet? What is the scope of their authority and responsibility? From what I understand, people have been appointed and I will be finding out more.
I have every reason to vent and say I was right. I was perusing old threads, and looked at the time when the rental recommendation committee read its recommendations.
That was ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO!!!!
Another fact, the night of the recommendations, I got up in that council meeting and stated that we need a rental board in this town. I stated that I believe the temporary committee would stay on and become permanent. That is, of course, without the person who's removal from that committee I publicly called for due to questionable ethics. The public portion of the meeting was held before the recommendations were read, so I stated that without even knowing what was going to be said. I stated that before there was a candidate Miller who ran on this idea one year ago.
I CALLED FOR THIS COMMITTEE ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO!!
This goes beyond the usual snails pace of government, this borer lines negligent.
The town councilman who are running this year should not be running on this accomplishment. Due to the ridiculous length of time since the recommendations were read, they should be hanging their heads in shame. At this point we should NOT be talking about this great new committee. Two years after the fact, we should be talking about results, areas in need of improvement, and other topics that this committee will be working on and should have been for two years. .
In other words, we are at least two years behind where we should be.
And that is another problem. Lets face facts, the rental explosion and the subsequent detriment to this town did not happen over night. Our governing body has often been too slow to act. Citizens have spoken up, warned them, and demonstrated frustration. I have mentioned that it took Belmar about ten years, ten hard years, to turn their rental issues around. Our town will require a far more aggressive approach, regardless of who is sitting in that council seat. AS it is, we are far behind and that was avoidable.
I also have to question the validity of Geo and Mike D running with this issue. While I am sure they both care about seeing these issues addressed, the real credit goes to the Mayor and Councilman Le Vine. Those two have been the most visible and vocal on these issues. Most credit goes to those two for leading the charge and getting things done.
I also have to wonder where Shutzer is. Again, she is a stand up person with real passion for this town, but as I understand it, she is the council rep on this new committee. This is a very crucial issue and I hope she raises hell and pushes things forward at a better pace than we have seen. We will need to see much more from her. We need to see it now, not next year when she is up for re-election. If she is not willing to do that, then this committee has got to be handed to Le Vine, who has been rightfully active and vocal. He also deserves credit for the recommendation committee.
I also need to take issue with the following comment:
"They (homeowners) are a major stakeholder in the community. . . . This (board) will give those folks a voice," Schnurr said
Duh!!! Again, I am not impressed, this is a no brainer. Again, I have long been an advocate for balance for all parties. Please tell me the governing body isn't just getting this point. Somehow I doubt it, but I am a firm believer that addressing the home owners has been neglected. Badly.
This is where I get to toot my own horn again. I did deal with an issue quietly back a while ago. We all remember the forum the HRC put on. They did a fantastic job, it was the right thing to do, and I cast no blame at them.
The problem was that the forum was geared to the tenants and landlords, all of who need to be included in the rental issues. For reasons I will outline, I quietly reached out to three council members and asked, what about the home owners? It was then, and only then, that there were public statements made that there will be a second forum for the home owners.
Well governing body, Where is that home owner forum that we were all promised? Or are we left out again?
I kept the forum issues quiet for a reason. After the tainted appointment fiasco, I really did not want to do anything that drew ire toward the HRC. They do not deserve it and I do not support anybody taking shots at them. Until now, that is why I have never written about this on this site.
I will end my above lunatic rant on a few notes. I am glad this committee is finally established ( TWO YEARS!!). This should not be popping up as an election year gimmick. The real work is ahead. Next year when two more council members run, they had better be running on results, real concrete results.
There has got to be the right approach in this committee. The home owners have been neglected. That has got to change. The tenants and landlords also have to be included. Balance, something I believe in.
As I have been for at least two years, I will be watching this like a hawk. I will be honest. When he governing body does the right things, I will be the first to step up and say, d**n good job! And when they screw up......... |
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Post by admin on Nov 6, 2008 7:40:59 GMT -5
Here is a great start for the new rental board. This is a letter that appeared in the News Transcript this week... newstranscript.gmnews.com/news/2008/1105/letters/033.htmlTenant supports a permanent rental board As a 16-month tenant in Freehold Borough, I am amazed at the situation that the 1,900 tenants are subjected to by code enforcement and the borough itself. I live in an apartment that is owned by an "absentee" landlord. My complaints to code enforcement and the borough have both gone unanswered or answered with no effective accountability. I have several BOCA code violations in my apartment that have been present since the day I moved in, which leads me to ask how the borough issued a certificate of occupancy for this apartment. Also, how does the municipal attorney take the word of the landlord that he has corrected certain issues without any accountable proof? I am adamant that we need a functional permanent rental board. Homeowners, wake up before your town and the value of your properties disappear. Gianfranco Bonanni Freehold Borough |
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on Nov 6, 2008 10:52:11 GMT -5
Lets travel back in time six years ago, 20022002 -Time for action on Freehold overcrowding Councilman suggests newstranscript.gmnews.com/news/2002/0123/Front_Page/008.html"the town simply does not possess the manpower to enforce the health and safety rules that officials feel are necessary"[/i]... ALSO... newstranscript.gmnews.com/news/2002/0918/Front_page/006.htmlthe quality of life team was formed in response to an increase in complaints about so-called quality of life issues and an increase in the number of crowded living conditions in the town.[/u] (Mayor) Wilson said more than 80 property inspections have produced violation notices for quality of life infractions, such as illegally parked cars, abandoned vehicles,(Vehicular Registration ordnance anyone) building code infractions, improper storage of trash and refuse, and many others."This court is the most crucial step of the quality of life enforcement process," Wilson said. "Unfortunately, it is not until fines are issued and punishment is given by a judge that people begin to realize they have an obligation to society to live within all laws and codes. Laws bind society together in order to provide social order and that transcends all ethnic backgrounds and all neighborhoods."The mayor said the team’s "mission will continue with the purpose and zeal with which it began."
FLASH FORWARD SIX YEARS .....November 2008November 2008 "The new panel replaces the former Multiple Dwelling Review Board, which has been relatively inactive for years" Is there any possible explanation, considering the long unsettled history of the boroughs "rental industry" that any board-committee related to residential rental property oversight in Freehold borough would be inactive FOR ONE DAY is an amazement? November 2008..."...the issues concerning rental units today are different than they were years ago. .... .overcrowding of rental units as one current concern." CURRENT CONCERN (OMG) draw your conclusion?
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on Nov 6, 2008 12:09:34 GMT -5
"Here's is the crux of this - Brian was not especially clear in asking his question at the council meeting on Monday night and I think he realizes this now.
Brian asked - ["who will serve on the new committee?' The answer right now TO THAT QUESTION (as he asked it) is that we do not really know "who" they will be." [/i]
To bad Minutes from our Council meetings are NOT publicly posted like most other Municipalities.
I remember the response Brian received was less than forthcoming considering the amount of detail that the council supplied to the NT days earlier 
OK...I've got to set the record straight on this one, even though I already discussed the whole matter with Brian, already. Here's is the crux of this - Brian was not especially clear in asking his question at the council meeting on Monday night and I think he realizes this now.
Brian asked - "who will serve on the new committee?' The answer right now TO THAT QUESTION (as he asked it) is that we do not really know "who" they will be. I DO hope that some of our former RPAC members agree to come back. So far, only one has expressed an interest to me. Some new blood would also be nice, too, so as to bring some new ideas to the table. What Brian probably meant to ask was "what will be the makeup of the new committee?" Had he asked his question THAT WAY, we probably would have cited the passage in the ordinance that Clare pulled out and published in her newspaper - though it is missing a couple of important words that were accidentally left off and missed - "a minimum of..." Now, realize that the committee "makeup" passage was a cut and paste from the old ordinance that created the former RPAC. Those words were left off back when that committee was formed and no one picked up on it. I probably should have, but was too excited about what the commitee was going to be able to do. Also, realize that the vast majority of that committee did a great job making 17 recommendations (two more came after the committee made the original 15). I didn't think you'll find much criticism of the terific job Maureen Haley and company did for our town, either. As for the "makeup" of that committee. In truth, the two tenants from Rug Mill Towers appointed to the RPAC stopped showing up after the third or fourth meeting and we couldn't find suitable replacements. So, we went on with who we had. Sometimes, reality dictates these things and you move on. Look - our Chair John Newman walked away in the middle and Maureen Haley moved over to save the day! Homeowners will DEFINATELY be well represented on the modified MDRB. This was the intent all along and I will not vote for a makeup that does not include a few of them. I also know that I am not alone in this thinking either. This thing was totally blown out of proportion. Many of you know me pretty well and know that when you ask me something you get a straight answer (unless its executive session sort of stuff - police investigations and the like). No one has to like me or even trust me - but, I have a pretty good track record for being honest and getting results in what ever I do (see below). I also believe in the people I serve with on council. They are decent people and we have all volunteered for a tough job that many others wouldn't even try to tackle, but are quick to criticize. Marc's name choice for his company is particularly appropriate: On top of outstanding professionalism and great aptitude, Marc has always displayed, on the several client engagements we shared, the highest level of integrity - in addition to a wonderful sense of humor.” April 15, 2008Val Golan, Owner, GoLAN Consulting, Inc. was with another company when working with Marc at Integrity Consulting AssociatesMarc Brian...I hope you will respond to Marc's post. In particular the area I highlighted in blue... In reading your initial posts, I understood it to mean that you asked again about the actual idea of forming this committee since you had heard rumors of such in recent weeks. According to Marc, your questions were a bit more precise in regards to who will be serving on the committee. Marc...I wonder why, if you were able to guess what Brian was perhaps trying to ask ("what will be the makeup of the new committee")...why didn't yourself or another Council member step up and suggest that to him, and then answer that question? Also, since you mentioned "that the committee "makeup" passage was a cut and paste from the old ordinance that created the former RPAC. Those words were left off back when that committee was formed and no one picked up on it. I probably should have, but was too excited about what the commitee was going to be able to do."...I trust that there will be an agenda item on a council meeting in the very near future that adds an amended passage to the bill that formed the committee, so that it has the proper wording. |
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