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Post by richardkelsey on May 20, 2008 16:07:44 GMT -5
What is the status of that property? I am reminded of it by the parade pictures.
Is there any movement on that site?
It is an eye-sore at the front door of the Borough, and it is a lost opportunity for a ratable.
It's proximity and lack of parking make it a real tough sell, I am sure -- but the Borough should have a strong interest in making sure something gets done there before Bruce writes another song about white-washed windows and vacant stores.
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Post by admin on May 20, 2008 16:10:57 GMT -5
It is still an eye sore and a run down wreck. I have pictures of that and will share soon.
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Post by admin on May 20, 2008 16:56:35 GMT -5
What is the status of that property? I am reminded of it by the parade pictures. Is there any movement on that site? It is an eye-sore at the front door of the Borough, and it is a lost opportunity for a ratable. It's proximity and lack of parking make it a real tough sell, I am sure -- but the Borough should have a strong interest in making sure something gets done there before Bruce writes another song about white-washed windows and vacant stores. I started a new page on the home site, inspired by this very topic. You will find the pictures I promised. www.people-fb.com/mission.html |
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Post by richardkelsey on May 20, 2008 17:04:08 GMT -5
Wow -- that's bad.
Maybe we can call the last suitor up, approve the application, and offer a tax incentive to come back.
Obviously, the site's condition is reprehensible. Having said that, the site is a real problem because of its size, locale within the business center, etc.
It's practical uses are not many.
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on May 20, 2008 17:14:19 GMT -5
Brian, Brian, Brian, the site was looking so festive and now.....  What is the status of that property? I am reminded of it by the parade pictures. Is there any movement on that site? It is an eye-sore at the front door of the Borough, and it is a lost opportunity for a ratable. It's proximity and lack of parking make it a real tough sell, I am sure -- but the Borough should have a strong interest in making sure something gets done there before Bruce writes another song about white-washed windows and vacant stores. I started a new page on the home site, inspired by this very topic. You will find the pictures I promised. www.people-fb.com/mission.html |
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Post by admin on May 20, 2008 17:23:29 GMT -5
Brian, Brian, Brian, the site was looking so festive and now..... Yes, I know. I felt bad posting those after posting those great Memorial day Parade pics. The only improvement has been the addition of chain link fence around the Exxon station. Someone sent me even more eye sore pics!  |
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Post by lisas84 on May 20, 2008 18:57:55 GMT -5
Both WLisa54 and Cheryl should be congratulated for doing the proper homework to derail this particular thread from going down the drain with accusations -- because that's probably where it was headed.
Good work you two!
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Post by admin on May 20, 2008 19:26:29 GMT -5
Both WLisa54 and Cheryl should be congratulated for doing the proper homework to derail this particular thread from going down the drain with accusations -- because that's probably where it was headed. Good work you two! Lisa84, you are right, the two who researched and got us some facts are to be commended. I doubt this thread would have gone down the drain. We were all simply commenting on the fact that the Exxon station is an eye sore. I do not think any person could say otherwise. I would call it urban blight considering how long that building and lot has been sitting in a state of decay. What ever the reasons for its decay are, it still greets visitors to this town in a not nice way. There was no finger pointing going on. But, since you brought it up, I say we should blame...... ;D... President Bush! |
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Post by novillero on May 21, 2008 8:34:10 GMT -5
Both WLisa54 and Cheryl should be congratulated for doing the proper homework to derail this particular thread from going down the drain with accusations -- because that's probably where it was headed. Good work you two! Here are prior postings on the issue: freeholdvoice.proboards46.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=main&thread=765&page=1Somewhere buried in there is a reference to an environmental cleanup, and Marc's vote as to parking waivers... The thread started in July 2006!!! It's funny, you can tell that there are gaps in the posts through deletions. Anyway, it's a pretty good history with some links to an old article as well. |
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Post by novillero on May 21, 2008 8:40:18 GMT -5
Tony's Grill has a real good lawyer and will have the thing tied up for a long time. Is this an assumption or a statement of fact? There seems to have been decisions already made by the planning board (such as parking waivers), was an appeal filed? |
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Post by novillero on May 21, 2008 8:42:37 GMT -5
It is an eye-sore at the front door of the Borough, and it is a lost opportunity for a ratable. As this was an Exxon station, it was a ratable, right? Since the place has been not used, does the tax status differ? Isn't it still taxed as a commerical property regardless of how it is used (or not used)? And is the tax difference going to be different based on whether it is taxed as a gas station or a small office? How much of a difference? |
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Post by ka19 on May 21, 2008 10:55:53 GMT -5
I'm shocked. It's not like Exxon has ever contaminated land and then left it in shambles ever before. They are such great corporate citizens, and so profitable too...yuck.
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on May 21, 2008 11:03:29 GMT -5
I'm shocked. It's not like Exxon has ever contaminated land and then left it in shambles ever before. They are such great corporate citizens, and so profitable too...yuck. After the infamous spill, the Exxon Valdez was rumored to have been towed to San Diego, arriving on July 10 and repairs began onboard on June 30, 1989. Approximately 1,600 tons of steel were removed and replaced in the month of July 1989, totaling $30 million of repairs to the tanker. After being repaired, the Valdez was renamed the "Sea River Mediterranean," later shortened to "S/R Mediterranean," then to simply "Mediterranean" and sailed under the Marshall Island flag. OR...After the infamous spill, the Exxon Valdez was scuttled and secretly buried on the north west Corner of Spring Street and Main Street |
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Post by richardkelsey on May 21, 2008 11:08:43 GMT -5
It is an eye-sore at the front door of the Borough, and it is a lost opportunity for a ratable. As this was an Exxon station, it was a ratable, right? Since the place has been not used, does the tax status differ? Isn't it still taxed as a commerical property regardless of how it is used (or not used)? And is the tax difference going to be different based on whether it is taxed as a gas station or a small office? How much of a difference? Good questions all. I know on residential property you pay far lass for vancant land, or raw land, then developed land. I don't know the classification for this property, or it's current valuation. One thing is for sure, putting an active business or better ratable there will raise the property value of that business, and those around them. |
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Post by lisas84 on May 21, 2008 11:10:33 GMT -5
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on May 21, 2008 11:29:47 GMT -5
As this was an Exxon station, it was a ratable, right? Since the place has been not used, does the tax status differ? Isn't it still taxed as a commerical property regardless of how it is used (or not used)? And is the tax difference going to be different based on whether it is taxed as a gas station or a small office? How much of a difference? Good questions all. I know on residential property you pay far lass for vancant land, or raw land, then developed land. I don't know the classification for this property, or it's current valuation. One thing is for sure, putting an active business or better ratable there will raise the property value of that business, and those around them. try this... If there is a in ground oil tank, a perspective home owner is required by the mortgage company and/or the insurance company to to a soil sample in and around the area of the in ground tanks as a prerequisite for the bank approval and home closing. If there is contamination found, a remediation agreement between the sell and buyer must be reached. Now flip these same seller / buyer conditions over to a commercial real estate deal, no less a commercial property that is/was a gas station..., So prior to the purchase didn't the buyer exercise due diligence (looking like a big NO)? How did the buyer receive the financing? Did the sale even go thorough? We backed out of a house that had a 50 year old ground oil tank. The seller was being a bit uncooperative about the soil testing...,if it came out clean I pay for the soil testing, if it came out contaminated he pays, but then he's stuck dealing with the DEP and I believe unable to sell the home until the situation is remediated. The sellers hesitation was a BIG RED FLAG. |
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on May 21, 2008 11:47:59 GMT -5
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on May 21, 2008 11:52:46 GMT -5
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on May 21, 2008 12:00:12 GMT -5
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on May 21, 2008 12:04:00 GMT -5
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Post by stffgpr2003 on May 21, 2008 12:36:20 GMT -5
Lisa84... Oh my! I hope this one isn't also on your list of memorable tunes? youtube.com/watch?v=0xmV-261o1U&feature=relatedTrivia: Remember who used the megaphone for the singing part? Hint: At the time - he was also starring on Broadway in "How To Succeed In Business (without really trying)" with Robert Morse and Michelle Lee Marc  |
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Post by novillero on May 21, 2008 12:49:17 GMT -5
wow, that discussion was seriously scuttled.
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Post by lisas84 on May 21, 2008 13:13:45 GMT -5
Yes, Novillero! Sometimes it's great to get a little lighthearted and silly, take a break from being so serious. It's good for the soul.
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on May 21, 2008 13:23:00 GMT -5
Lisa84... Oh my! I hope this one isn't also on your list of memorable tunes? youtube.com/watch?v=0xmV-261o1U&feature=relatedTrivia: Remember who used the megaphone for the singing part? Hint: At the time - he was also starring on Broadway in "How To Succeed In Business (without really trying)" with Robert Morse and Michelle Lee Marc Not Trivia .....FACT..., Hint not Rudy Giuliani and not Franky Vallie More trivia...Name the TV commercial that adapted this tune, the tune was synonymous with the branding? |
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on May 21, 2008 13:26:06 GMT -5
This thread went totally astray.... ;D |
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Post by admin on May 21, 2008 14:44:32 GMT -5
Both WLisa54 and Cheryl should be congratulated for doing the proper homework to derail this particular thread from going down the drain with accusations -- because that's probably where it was headed. Good work you two! Here are prior postings on the issue: freeholdvoice.proboards46.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=main&thread=765&page=1Somewhere buried in there is a reference to an environmental cleanup, and Marc's vote as to parking waivers... The thread started in July 2006!!! It's funny, you can tell that there are gaps in the posts through deletions. Anyway, it's a pretty good history with some links to an old article as well. Novillero, Good follow up on past discussions. Those conversations provide some good reminders. There is a real doozy in there from LS. They go back two years! Maybe it is time for some of that finger pointing. Can we call the former Exxon station urban blight yet? |
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Post by admin on May 21, 2008 15:04:50 GMT -5
Both WLisa54 and Cheryl should be congratulated for doing the proper homework to derail this particular thread from going down the drain with accusations -- because that's probably where it was headed. Good work you two! One other thing Lisa84, Look at this thread in context. Rich was simply asking a good and fair question. Compare this thread to the one Novillero dug up and there is a very big difference. Your concerns about any given thread going south are valid, but have no worries, we are on track with another fine thread here. |
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Post by stffgpr2003 on May 21, 2008 15:06:32 GMT -5
Lisa: I can't resist this one... And let's not forget this classic tune from someone advised not to quit his day job (LOL!!): youtube.com/watch?v=rrMTWfjPdIU&feature=relatedIt's almost the holiday weekend! So, why not get psyched to show our American pride; get ready to salute our brave vets at the parade and throughout the day on Monday; and to enjoy some time with family and friends...not to mention having some needed time off from work to relax and re-energize. ...errr...if you do get the chance to chill out, just choose a song other than this one and those already mentioned! Wishing everyone a wonderful Memorial Day weekend, filled with respect and thanks for our brave veterans, who gave their lives, limbs and fullest dedication to our country in times of war. And, let's wish our surviving veterans and our active troops in Afghanistan, Iraq and in other far off places, continued health, safety and the promise of a speedy return home. And, to our family and friends - let's wish them a very enjoyable, safe and reflective Memorial Day Weekend. Never forget what this special day means or those for whom the day is dedicated. Marc |
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Post by novillero on May 22, 2008 9:13:45 GMT -5
Both WLisa54 and Cheryl should be congratulated for doing the proper homework to derail this particular thread from going down the drain with accusations -- because that's probably where it was headed. Good work you two! One other thing Lisa84, Look at this thread in context. Rich was simply asking a good and fair question. Compare this thread to the one Novillero dug up and there is a very big difference. Your concerns about any given thread going south are valid, but have no worries, we are on track with another fine thread here. The discussion went "down the drain," to quote Lisa, for other reasons. It is strange how the topic kept getting off-topic. There was no malice in these posts, or finger pointing, just legitimate questions. What's wrong with that? |
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