adefonzo
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Post by adefonzo on May 19, 2008 14:34:29 GMT -5
I have recently been in touch with the Monmouth County Sheriff's department and have heard from them that the State Attorney General issued an edict last year that allowed local law enforcement to check the residency status on any individual they pick up on an indictable offense. Granted, as I say time and again, I am no lawyer, so I don't pretend to know the full weight behind this edict...however...
There have been rumored cases in the past (rumored because many of them go unreported) about day laborers being robbed for the cash they carry on them.
This seems to be a case where the arresting officers could have done a check on the suspects residency, since robbery is obviously an indictable offense...
I am curious as to whether or not this was done, and secondly, if it was found that the suspect was here illegally, would bail even be an option? From what I understood from the Sheriff's office, if someone is found to be here illegally, then they would be held until such time as ICE takes over the case.
Obviously I have more research to do on this.
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Post by admin on May 20, 2008 6:21:43 GMT -5
ps-A victim has $1600 in his pocket?? More like a drug deal that went bad. The last time I had $1600 in my pocket was when I came back from AC after a good day. I have to respectfully disagree. Although there is the chance of a drug deal gone bad, if the victim is an illegal, I believe the likely scenario is a robbery. This is a very common problem among the illegal alien population. Many do not have safe places to keep their money. Even where they live is not a good place to keep any amount of money because they often live with many others. The only option is to keep all of their money on them. The American criminal element is well aware of this and will rob people who they think are illegals. Actually, I am aware of situations where illegals rob each other as well. This is one of the reasons why many illegals try to get the Mexican Consular cards as some sort of ID, so they can open bank accounts and keep their money in safer place. |
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bergsteiger
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Post by bergsteiger on May 20, 2008 6:47:24 GMT -5
I don’t encourage illegal behavior but it sounds like the victim in this case was not above the law either so what comes around goes around. If he was in his own country like he should be this would never have happened. Now the police have to waste time on an issue that should not happen leaving little or no time to take care of more important issues.
This guy illegally enter my country. Loiters around in allies while carrying his whole life savings and when something happens the tax man takes the money out of my pocket. I feel like I’m the victim.
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Post by concerned on May 22, 2008 12:29:32 GMT -5
Kudos berg, right on. However, it is still a serious crime and hopefully this great town council will realize that Freehold has real crime ( drugs galore, murder, handguns) and that a small police force like ours can't afford to have an officer babysitting downtown everyday...Try letting these guys do their job!!!
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Post by casualreader on May 25, 2008 10:24:57 GMT -5
Berger Dude:
Your response to what may be a mini crime wave is short-sighted as usual.
If you have someone systematically robbing people in a community that is a big problem for all of us.
Here is your latest misinformed post.
Let us start with the fact that the victim was not "loitering in an alley" -- He was walking through a parking lot. I know facts are tough for you to get your biases around.
Nowhere in either article does it say that the victims were undocumented immigrants.
Even if they were the suspect, if he were not targeting immigrants, would likely be targeting someone else who is vulnerable.
POINT -- He is a bad dude preying on people in our society. He needs to be removed from the society. The immigration status of the victims is a sideshow issue used by you to champion your biases.
Casually Against Robbery
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bergsteiger
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Post by bergsteiger on May 28, 2008 7:00:24 GMT -5
Berger Dude: Your response to what may be a mini crime wave is short-sighted as usual. If you have someone systematically robbing people in a community that is a big problem for all of us. Here is your latest misinformed post. Let us start with the fact that the victim was not "loitering in an alley" -- He was walking through a parking lot. I know facts are tough for you to get your biases around. Nowhere in either article does it say that the victims were undocumented immigrants. Even if they were the suspect, if he were not targeting immigrants, would likely be targeting someone else who is vulnerable. POINT -- He is a bad dude preying on people in our society. He needs to be removed from the society. The immigration status of the victims is a sideshow issue used by you to champion your biases. Casually Against Robbery One article has the victim in an alley. Illegal Aliens loiter in alleys and parking lots all over town. He was carrying $1600.00 in cash. That either makes him an Illegal Alien, some kind of criminal or very stupid. Casually practicing inductive reasoning. |
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