Spanish Speaking Preferred

[fiberisgoodforyou]

www.freeholdboro.k12.nj.us/HumanResources/Employment.htm

With the tax money for home owners.....

Currently Filling The following positions:(?)

Clerical Assistant at FIS
Strong organizational and interpersonal skills required
Must be proficient in Microsoft Office
Responsibilities will include but are not limited to:
Maintaining student attendance and student files
Xerox copying
Mail distribution
Spanish Speaking Preferred
Effective: February 14th, 2007
Salary in accordance with FBEA contract

Closing date: February 12th, 2007 EOE

Please Fax Resume to Denise Lucarelli
732-462-8954
or Send to
Mrs. Denise Lucarelli
Administrative Assistant to the Superintendent
Freehold Borough Public Schools
280 Park Avenue
Freehold, New Jersey 07728
[e-mail]

[admin]

That is appalling! And discriminatory! What about Russian? Chinese? Vietnamese? Italian? German? and the hundreds of languages that are spoken?


At least it does not say Spanish required.

[guest]

With close to 50% of the students being Latino I think it would be a waste of my tax dollars to prefer Russian, Chinese or any other language other than Spanish. If a person is going to be paid to work in a school office and expected to answer the phone and communicate with the parents of this district then I think they will need to be able to speak spanish. It doesn't say that they must BE spanish, it only says that it would be beneficial to be able to SPEAK spanish.

Besides, that was one of the positions that was cut from the budget in case anyone forgot.

[admin]

guest said:

With close to 50% of the students being Latino I think it would be a waste of my tax dollars to prefer Russian, Chinese or any other language other than Spanish. If a person is going to be paid to work in a school office and expected to answer the phone and communicate with the parents of this district then I think they will need to be able to speak spanish. It doesn't say that they must BE spanish, it only says that it would be beneficial to be able to SPEAK spanish.

Besides, that was one of the positions that was cut from the budget in case anyone forgot.

What are you a bigot? What do you have against other languages? Aren't we a diverse and inviting town? Shouldn't we put the welcome mat out for everyone?

I got news for you. We have many immigrant poplulations in the area. We need to be nice and inviting to them too.

[AMERICAN guest]

guest said:

With close to 50% of the students being Latino I think it would be a waste of my tax dollars to prefer Russian, Chinese or any other language other than Spanish. If a person is going to be paid to work in a school office and expected to answer the phone and communicate with the parents of this district then I think they will need to be able to speak Spanish. It doesn't say that they must BE Spanish, it only says that it would be beneficial to be able to SPEAK Spanish.

Besides, that was one of the positions that was cut from the budget in case anyone forgot.

Our native language id English, all government business is conducted in English. School employees are government employees.

This is a presumption that you become flaunt in the native language in the place you chose to live.

If you feel this is unreasonable, too bad! Until my current is bilingual, my constitution is bilingual, the president swearing in is bilingual, than speaking a foreign language for a generalist position by a government agency, Schools in this case, is very wrong.

If it was mandatory to conduced business in English, these illegal aliens will be speaking our native language.

This is an ass back wards logic.

[Zeus]

AMERICAN guest, are you sure you want English to be the language of the land? Wouldn't that place you at a disadvantage from the very start; I think you might, at least, want to consider a different language than English as your language. ;D

AMERICAN said:

guest said:

With close to 50% of the students being Latino I think it would be a waste of my tax dollars to prefer Russian, Chinese or any other language other than Spanish. If a person is going to be paid to work in a school office and expected to answer the phone and communicate with the parents of this district then I think they will need to be able to speak Spanish. It doesn't say that they must BE Spanish, it only says that it would be beneficial to be able to SPEAK Spanish.

Besides, that was one of the positions that was cut from the budget in case anyone forgot.

Our native language id English, all government business is conducted in English. School employees are government employees.

This is a presumption that you become flaunt in the native language in the place you chose to live.

If you feel this is unreasonable, too bad! Until my current is bilingual, my constitution is bilingual, the president swearing in is bilingual, than speaking a foreign language for a generalist position by a government agency, Schools in this case, is very wrong.

If it was mandatory to conduced business in English, these illegal aliens will be speaking our native language.

This is an ass back wards logic.

[admin]

Hey, why don't we put it to vote in our town? of course, illegals should not ever get the right to vote, so we will ignore them.


I nominate Swahili as the official town language of Freehold Borough.

[Zeus]

Brian, this isn’t about bigotry, the fact remains that the majority of the children that attend public school in Freehold Borough come from a Spanish speaking background, with many of them either first generation themselves or the children of a first generation couple.

Adapting and assimilating to a new culture is very difficult, there are many hurdles that one has to overcome in order to successfully do so. The ‘Spanish Preferred’ line in this job description is merely trying to give the majority of students, within a district, a little bit more of a support structure for them to be successful and for them to assimilate with fewer obstacles. Most of these first generation children don’t want to speak Spanish; they are ashamed to do so.

They need role models to tell them that it is fine to speak it, that they need not be ashamed of their parents, and grandparents. When they see a person in a position of power that also speaks it, all of a sudden Spanish is no longer the language of the factory worker or the landscaping guy, but also the language that many, many successful people also speak.

However with this said I think your point is valid, children from other ethnic and language background should also enjoy the same opportunity. The challenges of assimilation and adaptation aren’t unique to the Latino Americans, these challenges transcends all ethnicities.

admin said:

guest said:

With close to 50% of the students being Latino I think it would be a waste of my tax dollars to prefer Russian, Chinese or any other language other than Spanish. If a person is going to be paid to work in a school office and expected to answer the phone and communicate with the parents of this district then I think they will need to be able to speak spanish. It doesn't say that they must BE spanish, it only says that it would be beneficial to be able to SPEAK spanish.

Besides, that was one of the positions that was cut from the budget in case anyone forgot.

What are you a bigot? What do you have against other languages? Aren't we a diverse and inviting town? Shouldn't we put the welcome mat out for everyone?

I got news for you. We have many immigrant poplulations in the area. We need to be nice and inviting to them too.

[admin]

Zeus said:

Brian, this isn’t about bigotry, the fact remains that the majority of the children that attend public school in Freehold Borough come from a Spanish speaking background, with many of them either first generation themselves or the children of a first generation couple.

Adapting and assimilating to a new culture is very difficult, there are many hurdles that one has to overcome in order to successfully do so. The ‘Spanish Preferred’ line in this job description is merely trying to give the majority of students, within a district, a little bit more of a support structure for them to be successful and for them to assimilate with fewer obstacles. Most of these first generation children don’t want to speak Spanish; they are ashamed to do so.

They need role models to tell them that it is fine to speak it, that they need not be ashamed of their parents, and grandparents. When they see a person in a position of power that also speaks it, all of a sudden Spanish is no longer the language of the factory worker or the landscaping guy, but also the language that many, many successful people also speak.

However with this said I think your point is valid, children from other ethnic and language background should also enjoy the same opportunity. The challenges of assimilation and adaptation aren’t unique to the Latino Americans, these challenges transcends all ethnicities.

admin said:

What are you a bigot? What do you have against other languages? Aren't we a diverse and inviting town? Shouldn't we put the welcome mat out for everyone?

I got news for you. We have many immigrant poplulations in the area. We need to be nice and inviting to them too.

Zeus,

For the most part I have been a complete clown on this thread. The entire discussion is old.

I do agree with some of what you have written, You are right to point out the struggle of immigrants in a new culture. Dealing with new laws, customs, lagnuage, etc. is not easy. I have nothing but respect for those immigrants who do the right things and overcome those obstacles. And I believe that when given a chance and encouraged to do so, most will deliver just fine.

I poke fun at topics that look at immigrants as just latino. I know in our town that is the case. But, in both my professional and private life I have had plenty of mostly good experiences with many different immigrants. For that reason it is hard for me to look at immigration, both legal and illegal, as just a Latino issue. In my eyes, Latino and immigration are two seperate issues. I do not like it or agree when they are treated as one and the same.

On the language issue, I have a feeling you and I will disagree on the importance of having one comman language. I will make my postition simple. While I have nothing against other languages, I believe it is wise for any immigrant to put as much time into learning English as possible. It is for their own good. I think it is good for people to retain their cultural language, but I believe without doubt they will have better chances at success when they learn English. It will open far more doors for them and ensure that they are not kept in a box.

In the schools I believe the kids should learn English, get taught in it and embrace it. Their parents would be wise to also do so. It is for their good as well.

Now, how about Swahilli as the town language?

[unwlecome guest]

Zeus said:

Brian, this isn’t about bigotry, the fact remains that the majority of the children that attend public school in Freehold Borough come from a Spanish speaking background, with many of them either first generation themselves or the children of a first generation couple.

According to the NJ DOE ('05-'06) stats I just pulled up, the % of children in FB K-8 who come from a home where Spanish is the "First language spoken at home in order of frequency" is actually about 32%. (FLC - 36.7%; PAE - 28.4%; FI - 30.4%)

"The majority" would be a number greater than 50%, wouldn't it?

[normanbellis]

Zeus, I think you taught me ESL once... NORMAN

[AMERICAN guest]

Zeus said:

AMERICAN guest, are you sure you want English to be the language of the land? Wouldn't that place you at a disadvantage from the very start; I think you might, at least, want to consider a different language than English as your language. ;D

AMERICAN said:

Our native language id English, all government business is conducted in English. School employees are government employees.

This is a presumption that you become flaunt in the native language in the place you chose to live.

If you feel this is unreasonable, too bad! Until my current is bilingual, my constitution is bilingual, the president swearing in is bilingual, than speaking a foreign language for a generalist position by a government agency, Schools in this case, is very wrong.

If it was mandatory to conduced business in English, these illegal aliens will be speaking our native language.

This is an ass back wards logic.

Zues...quick to criticize, I legally migrated from the former Yugoslavia in 1993, and work very hard to assimilate into this great American culture.

This is why I chose to dedicate uprooting my family to be American.

I came here legally, have worked as a day laborer, not I have a my own legal business.

You may not feel that my written in not as literate as you, how ever, your comments make it clear that you are a pompous lowlife full of yourself.

I expect the school staff to communicate to me in English, I expect that all parents regardless of there immigration status, expect the school staff to communicate in English, as this is part of our deal, why we come here...to become a part of this wonderful English speaking melting pot.

Speaking English, my new native language is the cost I pay to joint this greatest of countries.

The illegal immigrants you admire are sociologically raping good America's, and you support this. your are an ungrateful, fool ish, and over educated to to a fatal fault.

In a war, I guaranty you would be one of those with a bullet in the back, while running.

You should be the first draftee to Iraq!

[AMERICAN guest]

admin said:

Zeus said:

Brian, this isn’t about bigotry, the fact remains that the majority of the children that attend public school in Freehold Borough come from a Spanish speaking background, with many of them either first generation themselves or the children of a first generation couple.

Adapting and assimilating to a new culture is very difficult, there are many hurdles that one has to overcome in order to successfully do so. The ‘Spanish Preferred’ line in this job description is merely trying to give the majority of students, within a district, a little bit more of a support structure for them to be successful and for them to assimilate with fewer obstacles. Most of these first generation children don’t want to speak Spanish; they are ashamed to do so.

They need role models to tell them that it is fine to speak it, that they need not be ashamed of their parents, and grandparents. When they see a person in a position of power that also speaks it, all of a sudden Spanish is no longer the language of the factory worker or the landscaping guy, but also the language that many, many successful people also speak.

However with this said I think your point is valid, children from other ethnic and language background should also enjoy the same opportunity. The challenges of assimilation and adaptation aren’t unique to the Latino Americans, these challenges transcends all ethnicities.

Zeus,

For the most part I have been a complete clown on this thread. The entire discussion is old.

I do agree with some of what you have written, You are right to point out the struggle of immigrants in a new culture. Dealing with new laws, customs, lagnuage, etc. is not easy. I have nothing but respect for those immigrants who do the right things and overcome those obstacles. And I believe that when given a chance and encouraged to do so, most will deliver just fine.

I poke fun at topics that look at immigrants as just latino. I know in our town that is the case. But, in both my professional and private life I have had plenty of mostly good experiences with many different immigrants. For that reason it is hard for me to look at immigration, both legal and illegal, as just a Latino issue. In my eyes, Latino and immigration are two seperate issues. I do not like it or agree when they are treated as one and the same.

On the language issue, I have a feeling you and I will disagree on the importance of having one comman language. I will make my postition simple. While I have nothing against other languages, I believe it is wise for any immigrant to put as much time into learning English as possible. It is for their own good. I think it is good for people to retain their cultural language, but I believe without doubt they will have better chances at success when they learn English. It will open far more doors for them and ensure that they are not kept in a box.

In the schools I believe the kids should learn English, get taught in it and embrace it. Their parents would be wise to also do so. It is for their good as well.

Now, how about Swahilli as the town language?

BRIAN....I believe it is wise for any immigrant to put as much time into learning English as possible.

I believe it is wise for any immigrant to put as much time into learning English as it is impotant to earn our currency an dtake advantage of our social services.....

The very least you can do is learn English, because to not, is lazy and speaks volumes about why your here, and what you think of us.

[Concerned Parent]

I feel that I must comment on the issue of speaking Spanish or any other foreign language as your first language, rather than English. If anyone is interested in what happens to a country that is bilingual, take a look at Canada or the former Yugoslavia, or the entire Balkans. The belief that multiculturalism is good has been proven wrong by history. The earlier immigrants who came to this country learned to speak English, maybe it was "broken English", but they tried to learn the language. Their children also spoke English, many of them not speaking the language of their parents' background. They also considered themselves AMERICAN first, while still celebrating and being proud of their heritage. Take a look at the American Army during WWII, and find out how many soldiers were either first or second generation Americans. We do nothing to help the newcomers to this country, by helping them speak their "native" language. The way to assimilate and advance in the U.S. is to be fluent in English. That is one of the forces that united Americans in the past, and if we don't all speak English we will not be united, but rather divided into separate communities. If speaking the "native" language is so important, why leave and come here. As my grandmother used to say - If it was so good there, I would never have come to America.

[admin]

This topic is always a hot topic. I will end my posts on this thread with the following.

I had a co worker who was as American as Norman Rockwell and John Phillip Sousa. He was bi lingual. He grew up with it. His parents and grandparents passed the language down to him. Not one of them had been born outside the good ol' US of A. For generations they maintained the language of their home land. This co worker was a descendant of old Pennsylvania Germans. His family had been here for generations and they still maintained their culture and language.

Moral of the story? There is nothing wrong with knowing another language. It is actually a very good thing. I respect multilingual people. But.... this co worker would have been useless if he did not know how to talk to the rest of us. We need a common language in our country. A language that we try to excel at. We already have it...... English, in it's many wonderful forms. Any who do not embrace it will be left behind. That is just the way it is.

[fiberisgoodforyou]

admin said:

Moral of the story? There is nothing wrong with knowing another language. It is actually a very good thing. I respect multilingual people. But.... this co worker would have been useless if he did not know how to talk to the rest of us. We need a common language in our country. A language that we try to excel at. We already have it...... English, in it's many wonderful forms. Any who do not embrace it will be left behind . That is just the way it is.

Not according to our school board, they have a job waiting for them, supporting and assisting the others who are niether embracing, nor getting left behind, or more acuratly.... shamelessly getting over!

Brian.. AS YOUR KNOW...accroding to the OUR GREAT GEORGE THE 2ND...."NINGÚN NIÑOS IZQUIERDA detrás...."

Feliz Memioial Dia !