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Post by admin on Oct 26, 2007 17:04:53 GMT -5
Two issues. 1. The LLA letter is simply an editorial (their opinion) in a local newspaper. 2. Similar citizen letters can be sent to oppose their views and calls can be made to the proper authorities to support the Mayor's request. Guaranteed, the public can swamp any editorial they wish to and drown it in their own bucket of newsprint. Folks, when the LLA writes something that you disagree with, you are not exactly powerless to act. Conversely, The Dream Act has been a nightmare for its few supporters and has been suppressed, several times. by the huge popular outcry that FAIR and others mobilized. In addition, the State Legislature of NY must have heard, loud and clear, the public WARNING of - NO DRIVERS LICENSES for ILLEGALS - when they acted to stifle Governor Spitzer's ill conceived plan. The same thing happened to a similar NJ plan, sponsored by Joe Vas - remember that one? When you think about issues at home, it's nice - but, when you stand on the soapbox - THAT'S WHEN IT REALLY COUNTS! Fire up those PCs and get on the phone. The Mayor can request -but the public can DEMAND! Marc, you are correct, the APP letter is an opinion. It is one that provides insight ( again) into a group that has done nothing but hurt our town. It should also be pointed out that Matos was one of the many outside agitators who graced our town council meeting on March 6. This letter by Matos, coupled with the recent letter from Frank Freyre criticizing Freeholder Clifton, demonstrate that these groups, like the LLA and Casa Freehold, have no regard for our public safety. They are openly supporting the criminal element within the illegal alien community. The seam to think we should accept the criminal element as well as the good people. These are the same people who are fighting against the rental codes and every other quality of life effort that is thought of. They do so in support of people who morally and legally can be deported, at the expense of the general welfare of our town and beyond. It is for the above reasons I have to question why the mayor and Kane have been meeting with these groups. There is no value in it. There will be no gain for the citizens of Freehold Borough in meeting with the outside agitators who have only hurt our town. On very short notice, our legal, law abiding citizens did come out in numbers on March 6. We have spoken up. What good did it do? The events since then have not been inspiring. That is not a dig into you, Marc, you are only one voice, but a general observation overall.
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on Oct 26, 2007 22:02:05 GMT -5
It is for the above reasons I have to question why the mayor and Kane have been meeting with these groups........ Brian What evidence do you have to share that proves Councilman Kane has had meetings with Case Freehold and the LLA? This is critical information you must share, it is a serious accusation you make. You comments suggest that Councilman Kane would rather join the Mayor meeting with radical activists and advocates, yet not respond to an invitation to debate "Quality of Life" issues before the very votes of Freehold Borough. Loyalties and Priorities?
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Post by casualreader on Oct 26, 2007 22:16:08 GMT -5
Ted "Wannabe Councilman" Miller Could you be any more obvious and transparent in your little intrigues? Casually Bored
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Post by admin on Oct 27, 2007 8:54:38 GMT -5
It is for the above reasons I have to question why the mayor and Kane have been meeting with these groups........ Brian What evidence do you have to share that proves Councilman Kane has had meetings with Case Freehold and the LLA? This is critical information you must share, it is a serious accusation you make. You comments suggest that Councilman Kane would rather join the Mayor meeting with radical activists and advocates, yet not respond to an invitation to debate "Quality of Like" issues before the very votes of Freehold Borough. Loyalties and Priorities? It was reported in the News Transcript newstranscript.gmnews.com/news/2007/0919/Front_Page/026.htmlAdvocates for the Latino community and municipal officials say an ongoing dialogue is helping to ease the tension that has existed between the two groups......... Argote-Freyre said borough officials and Latino advocates have been meeting in small groups to work on issues affecting the immigrant community and longtime residents of Freehold Borough. After several years of turmoil we (borough officials and advocates) realized there was a need for an ongoing dialogue to talk about issues that affect both groups. One of the issues discussed was having the Latino festival outside in the downtown area," he said. Argote-Freyre said the meetings have been attended by Mayor Michael Wilson, Borough Council President Kevin Kane, Borough Attorney Kerry Higgins, Jayne Carr, the executive director of the Freehold Center Partnership, and Mike Page, a partnership member and owner of the Court Jester, to promote ongoing dialogues......... He said the goal of the meetings is to look at ways to help the borough reach out to the immigrant community and form a more cooperative relationship among all residents. Wilson said he decided to open a dialogue with the Latino advocates after a demonstration took place at Borough Hall by people who were opposed to certain Rental Advisory Committee recommendations, specifically one that would have required people to reveal their legal or illegal status in the United States when renting housing. The Borough Council never enacted that recommendation.
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Post by admin on Oct 27, 2007 9:18:09 GMT -5
Related to the above post, I will be posting a good write up in the very near future which will center around the Reyes appointment. I stayed out of that discussion on the Human relations thread, but will provide my own views and experiences pertaining to all the above.
I also have expectations that one of our site participants will also be doing a very interesting write up related to it all.
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Post by casualreader on Oct 27, 2007 9:58:31 GMT -5
Don't forget me Brian Dude I will be analyzing your analysis and letting PEOPLE know what is really happening.
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Post by fbrepublican on Oct 27, 2007 11:02:08 GMT -5
Sounds like a set-up job to me - not a debate. Ted the Republican is one of the P.E.O.P.L.E. members. It would be like having FF run and the ALA sponsor a debate. Who would subject themselves to that? For P.E.O.P.L.E. to moderate a debate between anyone and a member of the organization itself would be unfair. I shouldn't have to explain that. To insist on a forum of this type leads me to think that some folks are not interested in a fair debate at all. It would be like a visiting baseball team going to a field where the spectators, umpires and the opposing team all wore the same uniforms. If the P.E.O.P.L.E. organization really wanted to have a debate between the candidates, they should enlist the Transcript or the League of Women Voters, where P.E.O.P.L.E. can play a supporting role - like getting the room. Off topic again, Geo? Where does anything in this thread mention PEOPLE holding a debate? I will bet it would be news to the PEOPLE group. You should let them know they are holding a debate. have you seen Ted's membership card? I haven't.
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on Oct 27, 2007 11:51:32 GMT -5
Thank you Brian, This is the arrogance of one party rule in action!
No need to to answer to the Home Owner/Voters request for Debate on OUR QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES
Our current council and Mayor find it necessary to only meet with radical activists, community anarchists and advocates, yet not respond to an invitation to debate "Quality of Life" issues before the very votes of Freehold Borough.[
VOTERS, REMEMBER THESE Loyalties and Priorities ON NOVEMBER 6TH?"Argote-Freyre said the meetings have been attended by Mayor Michael Wilson, Borough Council President Kevin Kane Borough Attorney Kerry Higgins, Jayne Carr, the executive director of the Freehold Center Partnership, and Mike Page, a partnership member and owner of the Court Jester, to promote on going dialogues........." Advocates for the Latino community and municipal officials say an ongoing dialog is helping to ease the tension ( TM...who caused the tension[/u][/i][/color])that has existed between the two groups......... Argote-Freyre said borough officials and Latino advocates have been meeting in small groups to work on issues affecting the immigrant community and longtime residents of Freehold Borough. VOTERS REMEMBER THESE Loyalties and Priorities ON NOVEMBER 6TH? "Wilson said he decided to open a dialog with the Latino advocates after a demonstration took place at Borough Hall." Remember .....this from March 6th...Many borough residents who wanted to attend the council meeting were furious when they were denied entry to the meeting room because it was already at capacity.
More than 250 members of the Latino community packed the area in front of borough hall on March 5. Many held signs and chanted for immigrants rights....protesters came from as far as West Orange, Queens, N.Y., and New York Cityplease read more.... It was reported in the News Transcript newstranscript.gmnews.com/news/2007/0919/Front_Page/026.htmland newstranscript.gmnews.com/news/2007/0314/Front_Page/058.htmlAnd who invited...., World Workers Party( ?) and The May 1 Coalition sent a significant delegation, including Walter Sinche and Brian Barraza, who helped lead chants and also spoke....http://www.workers.org/2007/us/freehold-0315/index.html Is this who the LLA and CASA Freehold consider supporters, The World Workers Party and the May 1st Coalition? Why are the Mayor and Councilman Kane Meeting with these people?www.leftshift.org/
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Post by casualreader on Oct 27, 2007 11:58:07 GMT -5
Ted "Wannabe Councilman" Miller:
I am not now nor have I ever been a member of the Communist Party.
I, however, suspect that you are a member or once were a member of the Communist Party.
As your opponent in this race I ask you to clarify your political past. Were you ever RED? Do you have books written by Mao, Lenin and Che in your basement? The People of Freehold Borough need to know about your RADICAL Past.
Casually Demanding to Know Your Dubious Past
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Post by novillero on Oct 27, 2007 19:25:13 GMT -5
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Post by casualreader on Oct 29, 2007 7:21:31 GMT -5
Freehold Borough Community:
My sources in South America now indicate that Freydude, the Laz and Juan Reyes have just touched down in Caracas Venezuela for high-level talks with Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro.
They were greeted by thousands chanting "LONG LIVE THE LLA" and "Yea Casa Freehold."
Chavez and Castro urged the residents of Monmouth County to bring the Revolution to Freehold.
So if you don't see them around this week you now know where they are.
Casually Smoking a Cuban Cigar
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Post by pricewepay on Oct 29, 2007 16:21:39 GMT -5
Some questions regarding the mayor's letter : 1) Who created the "muster zone"? The mayor and council! 2) Who ignored or criticized anyone who spoke out against setting up the "muster zone"? The mayor and council! 3) Who was against using 287 as a tool to help address the problems facing Freehold? The mayor ! 4) Who, now that it's election time, favors using 287 ? The mayor! Pardon me if I am a liitle bit cynical about the timing of the mayor's letter. Until the people of Freehold wake up and elect new leadership they will continue to get the same lack of vision and leadership that this mayor has provided.
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Post by admin on Nov 1, 2007 17:07:36 GMT -5
This letter is from the News Transcript newstranscript.gmnews.com/news/2007/1031/Letters/026.htmlMayor should continue to engage immigrant community In response to Freehold Borough Mayor Michael Wilson's recent letter to the editor regarding the federal 287g program and Attorney General Anne Milgram's directive to New Jersey law enforcement agencies ("Governments Must Build on Attorney General's Directive," News Transcript, Sept. 12, 2007), I offer that his proposal would not meet its objectives for a number of reasons. The 287g program would bring to Freehold and Monmouth County operational and compliance expenses that would only add to the financial burdens of the borough and county. The total cost is around $5,000 per officer. When you consider the cost, along with compliance requirements, it doesn't make any sense to invest in a program that would cost the municipality and the county more than it costs Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). If the application for 287g were approved it would drive the immigrant population further underground, resulting in even more mistrust of police officers. Criminal offenses, suffered or witnessed, would go unreported and a valuable source of information would be squandered. The 287g program provides no additional authority to county and local law enforcement beyond what was outlined by Ms. Milgram in her recent directive. Local, county and state law enforcement, as a matter of general practice, could not use 287g to go beyond Ms. Milgram's directive. Given those facts, the only real impact of applying 287g on a county or local level would be to spread fear throughout the hard-working immigrant communities of Monmouth County. This would serve no one and certainly not the residents of Freehold Borough. Mayor Wilson's reach for the attorney general's recent directive as another tool for enforcing immigration laws reveals a poor understanding of the directive's intent. Having met with Ms. Milgram at our most recent Latino Leadership Alliance meeting, it was very clear that her intent was not to circumvent prevailing federal immigration enforcement guidelines. In fact, the intent was exactly the opposite. To emphasize this point, the directive contains a bolded section specifically detailing the limitations of those municipalities wishing to participate in the 287g program. The mayor's statement that the attorney general's directive is a "start" to addressing the problems of education funding, immigration reform, overcrowded housing and predatory absentee landlords is clear evidence that he really doesn't understand it's premise, and probably has not read the document. But just like the 287g program, the directive has provided an opportunity to anti-immigrant xenophobes to further discriminate against Latinos. The Newark murders cited by Mayor Wilson were gang related and coincidentally included one undocumented man among six, who slipped through our judicial system. Gang violence has been an American reality throughout its history. But to take one incident and tie it completely to immigration is abhorrent. In an article in The Star-Ledger dated Oct. 6, 2002, the paper stated the following, "In recent years, New Jersey has become home to a growing number of so-called 'supergangs,' groups with a presence in many states across the nation. It is these gangs - increasingly organized and quicker to kill - that have undergone the greatest expansion and alarm police the most." Gun violence in Newark has increased dramatically in recent years and murders have risen more than 50 percent since 2002. Gang violence is a problem that affects all of us constantly, and not just when an undocumented immigrant is a suspect. The conundrum I see in Freehold is a mayor who is struggling between his desire to do what's right in his heart and the political pressure being applied by a small xenophobic minority that is calling for the expulsion of people from Freehold who they think "may" be immigrants. Unfortunately, some of these racist individuals are in positions of power having been elected to either the council or Board of Education, and pose a real danger to the Freehold community. The best solution to the real or perceived problems in Freehold is for Mayor Wilson to continue his demonstrated willingness to reach out to the community, in an effort to establish the cultural harmony it deserves. In a solicitation letter to Gov. Corzine, Mayor Wilson praised his immigrant constituency and expressed his desire to serve on the Governor's Blue Ribbon Panel on Immigration. Mayor Wilson stated that "the influx of immigrants has enriched our town's culture with a group of individuals who have a profound work ethic, strong family and religious values, and have even added new, vibrant businesses to our downtown." These are great words to hear and they provide hope that the storms of fear and bigotry will not linger over Freehold. I truly hope that Mayor Wilson reconsiders his 287g proposal and continues to work directly with his community and its agencies toward progress and prosperity for Freehold Borough. Angel L. Matos Latino Leadership Alliance of New Jersey Keyport
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Post by richardkelsey on Nov 2, 2007 9:38:40 GMT -5
This letter is from the News Transcript newstranscript.gmnews.com/news/2007/1031/Letters/026.htmlThe conundrum I see in Freehold is a mayor who is struggling between his desire to do what's right in his heart and the political pressure being applied by a small xenophobic minority that is calling for the expulsion of people from Freehold who they think "may" be immigrants. Unfortunately, some of these racist individuals are in positions of power having been elected to either the council or Board of Education, and pose a real danger to the Freehold community. The best solution to the real or perceived problems in Freehold is for Mayor Wilson to continue his demonstrated willingness to reach out to the community, in an effort to establish the cultural harmony it deserves. In a solicitation letter to Gov. Corzine, Mayor Wilson praised his immigrant constituency and expressed his desire to serve on the Governor's Blue Ribbon Panel on Immigration. Mayor Wilson stated that "the influx of immigrants has enriched our town's culture with a group of individuals who have a profound work ethic, strong family and religious values, and have even added new, vibrant businesses to our downtown." Angel L. Matos Latino Leadership Alliance of New Jersey Keyport This snip of the LLA is the best thing that ever happened. First, it confirms that the LLA believes the Mayor has been cozying up and reaching out to illegal immigrants. Second, it shows their utter contempt for the lawful residents of the Borough of Freehold. Every time this Mayor gives the LLA any credibility, and seat at any table, or even the correct time of day -- he literally spits in the face of law abiding citizens -- the citizens that the LLA believes are all racist scum anyway. And by the way -- the LLA doesn't give a d**n what party anyone is in. They are concerned with one issue -- protecting, promoting, and encouraging illegal aliens to enter and stay in the US. So they use whatever tactics they must to win that battle, and use whatever small time politician, from whatever party, to advance the fight.
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Post by fbrepublican on Nov 2, 2007 17:45:20 GMT -5
Rich Wrote----This snip of the LLA is the best thing that ever happened. First, it confirms that the LLA believes the Mayor has been cozying up and reaching out to illegal immigrants.
Second, it shows their utter contempt for the lawful residents of the Borough of Freehold.
Every time this Mayor gives the LLA any credibility, and seat at any table, or even the correct time of day -- he literally spits in the face of law abiding citizens -- the citizens that the LLA believes are all racist scum anyway. And by the way -- the LLA doesn't give a d**n what party anyone is in. They are concerned with one issue -- protecting, promoting, and encouraging illegal aliens to enter and stay in the US. So they use whatever tactics they must to win that battle, and use whatever small time politician, from whatever party, to advance the fight.
One day the Mayor and Councilman Kane will wake up and realize that the LLA is not a group worth taking time with. The town government needs to reach out to and deal with the law abiding residents a lot more, not spend time with groups with narrow minds and one sided agenda's. This letter by Angel Matos is a very good example of that.
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