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Post by LS on Aug 10, 2007 9:26:17 GMT -5
"Man accused of growing marijuana in basement" www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070809/NEWS01/708090404FREEHOLD — A borough man has been indicted on charges connected to cultivating 53 marijuana plants in his basement. A three-month investigation by the State Police led to the arrest of Todd C. Wade, 34, of Runyon Avenue in January after the discovery of 53 marijuana plants and 158 grams of loose marijuana, according to prosecutors. Among items found were quantities of dried marijuana, marijuana seeds and paraphernalia related to the growing and packaging of marijuana, prosecutors said. A Monmouth County grand jury indicted Wade on Wednesday on the following first-degree charges: possession with intent to distribute, drug manufacturing and maintaining a drug production facility. He is additionally charged with possession with intent to distribute within 1,000 feet of school property and drug possession. If convicted of any of the first-degree charges, Wade could go to prison for up to 20 years. The Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office and Freehold Police Department assisted in Wade's arrest.
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Post by Freehold Resident on Aug 10, 2007 10:04:05 GMT -5
Now, I wonder LS, why you selectively post only the negative articles about Freehold Boro on this board.... It's interesting to me that if you look in any newspaper, you're pretty much going to always find things like this for most towns. You will find negative articles and positive articles. However, you and a couple of others, only seem to post the negative ones, almost making Freehold's so-called "armageddon," a self-fulfilling prophecy.... Now, when I, or others, post positive articles about Freehold, no one replies to them, basically allowing them to sink into the dungeon of Freehold Voice posts. I'm starting to think you have an agenda. Who woulda thought?? With that said, the guy was growing pot plants in his basement and should be punished accordingly. And while I don't smoke weed myself, or do any drugs, it could be much worse. Just be happy it wasn't cocaine, heroine or crystal meth, as you'd probably find in a couple of towns nearby that I won't name...... FR
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Post by LS on Aug 10, 2007 10:20:59 GMT -5
The article was posted because this was about Freehold Borough. This board is about Freehold Borough. Also, the issue of marijuana usually sparks debate.
Do you think someone growing pot plants should get 20 years in prison?
As for your PR posts, they are usually boring: look to see how many responses are made to the posts you start.
Anyway, why don't you scroll down "Anything Freehold Borough " and determine if all of my posts are negative. I think some are rather informative, like the Raceway Buyout, the Missing Teen, Google Earth, OtherBoards/Forums. How many of my posts have no responses? not many (it is an inverse proportion to yours)
I think that you have some agenda against me personally as you usually respond to my posts by attacking me rather than responding to what has been posted.
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Post by Freehold Resident on Aug 10, 2007 10:42:31 GMT -5
1.) I did respond to what you posted.
2.) I did scroll down and most, not all, are negative articles. (i.e. Throckmorton break-in)
3.) You're the FOX NEWS version of 'Fair and Balanced" reporting.
4.) 20 years in prison? No. In fact, I think marijuana should be decriminalized and then regulated like cigarettes and alcohol (which I think is 10x more harmful). In fact, I think the War On Drugs should end. And this is coming from someone who's never smoked pot or done any other drug other than cigarettes (which I quit three years ago cold turkey) and some alcohol. It's clearly not working and making things worse. Let people do what they want to do. If they want to screw up their bodies, that's THEIR choice, not anyone elses. This country has to stop monitoring and micromanaging the lives of everyone else, both in their bedrooms and out. People need to mind their own business and stop inflicting their religious "morals" on others. If they do drugs and then hurt someone else, THEN punish them 110 percent...but if they want to do drugs and mess up their own bodies, that's their prerogative, and no one should tell them otherwise.
5.) I do have an agenda against you, but not personally. I have an agenda against your miserable, negative and nihilistic, "Freehold's Coming to And End" OMG111!!!!!!! posts. Instead of constantly making Freehold Boro out to be falling apart, why don't you get out there and start doing things for the town. Why don't you volunteer on some committees and do something, rather than just complaining about it? This goes out to 99 percent of the board. I've gotten d**n sick and tired of hearing all of the complaining. Be POSITIVE. Of course there are things that need to be changed, but instead of complaining about them, DO something to CHANGE them. Wow, who would have thought you actually had to put something into ACTION in order to move it in a different direction?? I guess Isaac Newton was right.
FR
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Post by LS on Aug 10, 2007 10:44:52 GMT -5
Unfortunately, your thinking will be the end of the board. Post what you like, or don't post at all. So be it.
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Post by Freehold Resident on Aug 10, 2007 11:20:23 GMT -5
Oh...I see...MY posting will be the end of the board?
I'm the one that posted about the nice recording studio downtown, the new committee and other positive posts. You know..things that actually make you feel that the town ISN'T coming to an armageddon-filled end.
In fact it will be your negative, angry posts that will be the "end" of the board, if that's even possible. (How can an online message board system 'end?' Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of it?)
You must have attended the George W. Bush School of Fear-Mongering. You took Yellowredgreenorangepurple Alert System 101 and read the books, "You're either with us or against us" and "They don't like us because we're free. They hate us for our freedoms." ;D And who can forget the Senior class, "Drawing a Line in the Sand--Pick your side 451" which comes complete with the books, 'There is no gray area" and "It's either Black or White." Sorry, I'm just being facetious.
FR
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on Aug 10, 2007 11:33:41 GMT -5
Unfortunately, your thinking will be the end of the board. Post what you like, or don't post at all. So be it. Quibbling is not constructive, so why add to it. You both have Strong opinions. We can all be constructive only when all problems are admitted and prioritized appropriately publicly. (A) Pot being grow is a fact, The Police inaction about a Swarming incident is a fact, Slumlords are facts, the condition of our schools are facts, unemployed men hanging out in mass trough out main street and throckmorton is a fact, Petra and the wallcop TWICE on the same charges is a fact, the Crack head arrest on bond street with intent to buy, at 2:00 AM, is a fact, Commi Casa Freehold is a fact, Code enforcement being overwhelmed is a fact, RT 9 Retail corridor preference is a fact, the Rug Mill looks like "the Mini Cabrini" Projects is a fact. (B) A $50 al la cart steak house and the American hotel are facts to, receiving grants for Brick Sidewalks is a fact, the FCP $340K budget is a fact, flower lining Main street is a Fact,....these fact WILL NOT, and do not impact the daily lives of 95% of the 12,000 legal residents, unless you an illegal alien bus boy! Home owners made a serious comitment by their investment to live here. Thats is an undisputed fact. And like the stock market, the performance on their investment is poor and we all know why. You must be honest. A wise new investor looking for $390K-$490K home has a many choices, the township, the "M"s, Howell, Jackson, etc.....and HERE. A nicly spruced up Downtown is not the the sole criteria. If you enter the Boro from any where other than main street, you cant hide whats on the streets. Expecting people to think that "B" will over shadow "A", or focusing on "B" will sweep "A" under the rug is foolish. I know people with homes on the market for a year plus. Sorry FR, you like your facts and LS, me and MANY other silent people now the truth! there are reasons I didn't move to Paterson of Elisabeth, and that os what this place is starting to look like and was and still is avoidable, if only leadership........(well) Again, we can all be constructive only when all problems are admitted and prioritized appropriately. Lighten up...if you are opposed hearing about the "A" post to bad.
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Post by Freehold Resident on Aug 10, 2007 11:51:50 GMT -5
I never said those weren't facts. But you're actually making it worse when you emphasize the bad things.
I'm not saying don't talk about the bad things, but if you do (in general), then you should at least be working to correct them, instead of just throwing gasoline into the fire and running away like a giggling school girl.
Not to compare FB to Asbury, but for years and years people kept saying how bad Asbury was and how it would NEVER EVER come back. For years, it stayed in that position. THen when people actually decided to take steps and actions to fix it, only are we now seeing it changing.
So what I'm saying is talk about FB in a poor light all you want, but it's not going to change things until you actually put your feelings and thoughts into action. Until then, you're just all talk and losing credibility.
FR
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Post by bergsteiger on Aug 10, 2007 11:57:31 GMT -5
Wow, 53 plants in his basement. That must have been some operation. I would like to see some pictures of that. I wonder what his electric bill was. High-pressure sodium lights aren’t cheep to run.
Sad part is that the police have 3 months to investigate something like that.
20 years in jail for gardening.
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on Aug 10, 2007 12:14:18 GMT -5
I never said those weren't facts. But you're actually making it worse when you emphasize the bad things. I'm not saying don't talk about the bad things, but if you do (in general), then you should at least be working to correct them, instead of just throwing gasoline into the fire and running away like a giggling school girl. Not to compare FB to Asbury, but for years and years people kept saying how bad Asbury was and how it would NEVER EVER come back. For years, it stayed in that position. THen when people actually decided to take steps and actions to fix it, only are we now seeing it changing. So what I'm saying is talk about FB in a poor light all you want, but it's not going to change things until you actually put your feelings and thoughts into action. Until then, you're just all talk and losing credibility. FR Like the dentist office visit when your informed that you teeth are OK but the Gums gott's go? I am glad you agree with the facts, thats a start. DO you agree that people should be holding those resopnsaible for allowing these fact to take root. Next and again PRORITIES FIRST! Not goning to debate you until you own a home, send your kids to the public school and pay $4K, $5K...$9K +++, in property tax to the Boro!
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Post by Freehold Resident on Aug 10, 2007 12:48:24 GMT -5
How do you know that I don't? Are you a democrat? I'm asking because you seem to expect others to make the changes for you rather than changing it yourself....similar to asking for handouts vs. getting a job and making the money. As I've said and I will say again--stop complaining about it and DO something. (This goes out to everyone...I know that you DO do things Fiber.) FR
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on Aug 10, 2007 16:20:41 GMT -5
How do you know that I don't? FR Have kids in our public schools..... , OK got me I made a WAG! ON A POSITVE NOTE!!! MR and MRS Fiber and the FIBER Boys had a blast watching the DelVikings last night (kids thought they were computers from Norway)! Was nice to see many nice people from "THE M's", the township as well as the Boro'ers too! Kids were dancing, older folks were swinging and swaying! Nice to see NICE people comming to have fun in the Boro. Be nice to have a park with a Band shelter for these things
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on Aug 10, 2007 16:40:36 GMT -5
Wow, 53 plants in his basement. That must have been some operation. I would like to see some pictures of that. I wonder what his electric bill was. High-pressure sodium lights aren’t cheep to run. Sad part is that the police have 3 months to investigate something like that. 20 years in jail for gardening. Was this the basement of Casual Weeder? Oops Meant Reader!!! Very casual, this explains his hallucination about hate groups! Weed can lead to paranoia! Look a the Ozman.
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Post by admin on Aug 12, 2007 11:02:12 GMT -5
Now, I wonder LS, why you selectively post only the negative articles about Freehold Boro on this board.... It's interesting to me that if you look in any newspaper, you're pretty much going to always find things like this for most towns. You will find negative articles and positive articles. However, you and a couple of others, only seem to post the negative ones, almost making Freehold's so-called "armageddon," a self-fulfilling prophecy.... Now, when I, or others, post positive articles about Freehold, no one replies to them, basically allowing them to sink into the dungeon of Freehold Voice posts. I'm starting to think you have an agenda. Who woulda thought?? With that said, the guy was growing pot plants in his basement and should be punished accordingly. And while I don't smoke weed myself, or do any drugs, it could be much worse. Just be happy it wasn't cocaine, heroine or crystal meth, as you'd probably find in a couple of towns nearby that I won't name...... FR FR, I usually think as you do in reference to posting things like this. Police blotter type things are usually dull and void of discussion. In this case, it does hit close to home. My part of town has been and still is a very good place to live. Working class people who get along and take pride in their homes. This is the second big arrest of people in my area. The other was a guy who worked at the race track and was ripping off money. It just goes to show that the scum is everywhere. Even in nice places like my neighborhood.
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Post by admin on Aug 12, 2007 11:15:50 GMT -5
Oh...I see...MY posting will be the end of the board? I'm the one that posted about the nice recording studio downtown, the new committee and other positive posts. You know..things that actually make you feel that the town ISN'T coming to an armageddon-filled end. In fact it will be your negative, angry posts that will be the "end" of the board, if that's even possible. (How can an online message board system 'end?' Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of it?) You must have attended the George W. Bush School of Fear-Mongering. You took Yellowredgreenorangepurple Alert System 101 and read the books, "You're either with us or against us" and "They don't like us because we're free. They hate us for our freedoms." ;D And who can forget the Senior class, "Drawing a Line in the Sand--Pick your side 451" which comes complete with the books, 'There is no gray area" and "It's either Black or White." Sorry, I'm just being facetious. FR FR, I will use the above post to back up both you and LS. You are both right. The good things you post DO belong here. I hope you never stop providing those posts. My advice to you is to not post so many in one shot. Most people will only read them via the recent 50 posts feature which will not register any hits on the good news posts you provide. On the flip side, LS is right about posting the negative and hardball topics. We should NEVER stick our heads in the sand and pretend our town does not have problems. People need to know about those things as well as the good things. Those are the areas we need to work on in our town. Schools, crime, downtown enhancements, quality of life etc. are areas of genuine concern for all of us. As Fiber mentioned, those of us who have purchased homes in the Borough do have a vested interest in seeing our property values not degraded. And the reason I picked this post is your mention of Asbury Park. I have written it before and I will write it again. Having grown up in and around that town, I can not help but to watch and wonder if FB will follow suit and decline the way AP did. I watched a beautiful beach front town go down hill badly for some of the very reasons we see here in FB. It can happen to us too and we need to be proactive in as many ways as possible to prevent that.
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Post by admin on Aug 12, 2007 11:20:16 GMT -5
How do you know that I don't? FR Have kids in our public schools..... , OK got me I made a WAG! ON A POSITIVE NOTE!!! MR and MRS Fiber and the FIBER Boys had a blast watching the Del Vikings last night (kids thought they were computers from Norway)! Was nice to see many nice people from "THE M's", the township as well as the Boro'ers too! Kids were dancing, older folks were swinging and swaying! Nice to see NICE people coming to have fun in the Boro. Be nice to have a park with a Band shelter for these things The wife and I were at the Del Vikings too, how did we miss you? For a bunch of old geezers, they still know how to rock and put on a good show! We decided to go to a restaurant we have not been to. Before the show we went to El Familia which was really good. Between the dinner, the show, and the perfect summer evening weather, it was a very good night to be in the Borough.
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Post by LaTreen P King on Aug 15, 2007 20:10:46 GMT -5
El Familia? been there, done that.
Food was unispired, the help had that blank broken english look when you spoke of anything other than what is on the menu.
Mexican soft drinks are over priced. As they say, don't drink the water.
Dinner check, I didn't exect to pay $50+ for two THERE. Left my doggie bag behind.
This explains the many vacant tables.
C+ been there, done that, next.
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