The Next Generation
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Post by The Next Generation on Feb 24, 2007 11:07:28 GMT -5
I would like to share some of my own thoughts, being that I AM in my mid-20s, and will actually be, you know, part of the generation that is inheriting this town after you.
People like Frank Freyre and Tom Baldwin can go on and on all they want, but the fact of the matter is, I don't really care what you want for the town, because you will be long gone or in a nursing home, when my generation inherits Freehold Boro. They are almost there anyway. And I mean that in the nicest possible way. It's sad, but it's the truth.
Maybe THEY have their own agendas, but my generation doesn't care and doesn't agree. We want a nice town. We want a trendy town. We want chic stores, posh bars and clubs and an upscale, but relaxed community. We don't want bodegas and trashy .99 stores. Those are for places like Paterson and the bad parts of Los Angeles. We want Chelsea, Red Bank, SoHo or West Hollywood. You can disagree all you want, but I don't know of anyone who can rightfully say that they would choose to live or hang out in a ghetto area over a safe, upscale, exciting community.
My generation doesn't want crowds of slobs loitering around the town. We don't care what you are....you can be as different or as similar to the majority of us as you want or are...doesn't make a difference to us, as long as you pay taxes, contribute to the community and take care of yourselves. We're not wasting our hard-earned money on people who could really give a crap about us!
But in the end, it's not about this issue or that issue. It's about the next generation of people stepping up. It's going to be OUR town, not YOURS, OURS.
So in the end, people now can say or do what they want, but in the end, it's my generation who will have the last say. And my generation will go for the jugular without remorse. My generation will rip out throats if we have to, to make sure that the generation AFTER us is taken care of. There is a lot at stake, and we are not playing games. Stop thinking about yourselves and start thinking about protecting your "cubs."
Think about that.
- The Next Generation
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Post by admin on Feb 24, 2007 17:08:52 GMT -5
NG,
Good letter! Unfortunately, I doubt that you will receive even one sane response from any of the advocates.
Isn't it all about the future?
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Post by Casual Reader on Feb 26, 2007 10:57:05 GMT -5
Next Generation Dude:
Who says the poor and middle class cannot be fun to live around?
I do not want disneyworld on Main Street. NG wants "upscale."
Dude I have lived here four years but I know my town history better than you it seems. This has always been a town of hard-working people struggling to make a living. It sounds like there is no place for them in your fantasy world?
Another latte please,
Casual at Starbucks
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Post by admin on Feb 26, 2007 11:44:22 GMT -5
CR,
Looks like a good starting point. I do not believe that NG was intent on bashing the poor. I took it as a bit of a left hook at the advocates for the illegals more than anything.
From my perspective, I was attracted to this town because of the working class that is found here. Overall, there is a down to earth mentality in our town. When I moved here I did not see advocates who are trying to run this town down into a city slum type setting. I saw a nice, suburban, small town America. I am, to this day, impressed with the mild diversity that can be found.
As far as the recent surge in the illegal immigrant population, it is worth keeping in mind that they came here. Illegally. The optimist in me wants to believe that they could be a positive part of the town, but every time the advocates open their mouths the optimism gets squashed.
I have heard the advocates ask what Freehold will do to help the illegals. What will Freehold do to make nice. That is a wrongheaded approach.
The advocates have failed to ask or entertain the question, what will the illegals do for Freehold? How will the illegals make nice with the rest of Freehold? So far, there has been nothing but a take/take mentality. So far the advocates have done nothing to help the illegals gain respect.
Let us review what the advocates have done.
They call those who disagree with them names like bigot or racist.
They hold marches that are more damaging than good,. Every time they do, American opinion sways against them even more.
The advocates brought about a minor law suit and used it to degrade the town and the Mayor at every turn, using lies and intolerance at every turn.
When citizens in the town express concern about deviant behavior on the parts of the illegals, the advocates NEVER show any respect or compromise.
In short a very small, yet noisy, group of people, ( advocates) have done nothing but divide and attempt to destroy a good town and the good people in it. They have given nothing back. They have done nothing to help those they care about earn respect.
I know that many users on this board do have compassion for the illegals. It must be scary to have to run away from their home country. Their biggest obstacle is their leadership, it sucks. And I bet the average illegal does not even get that. So very sad.
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on Feb 26, 2007 12:22:14 GMT -5
CR, Looks like a good starting point. I do not believe that NG was intent on bashing the poor. I took it as a bit of a left hook at the advocates for the illegals more than anything. From my perspective, I was attracted to this town because of the working class that is found here. Overall, there is a down to earth mentality in our town. When I moved here I did not see advocates who are trying to run this town down into a city slum type setting. I saw a nice, suburban, small town America. I am, to this day, impressed with the mild diversity that can be found. As far as the recent surge in the illegal immigrant population, it is worth keeping in mind that they came here. Illegally. The optimist in me wants to believe that they could be a positive part of the town, but every time the advocates open their mouths the optimism gets squashed. I have heard the advocates ask what Freehold will do to help the illegals. What will Freehold do to make nice. That is a wrongheaded approach. The advocates have failed to ask or entertain the question, what will the illegals do for Freehold? How will the illegals make nice with the rest of Freehold? So far, there has been nothing but a take/take mentality. So far the advocates have done nothing to help the illegals gain respect. Let us review what the advocates have done. They call those who disagree with them names like bigot or racist. They hold marches that are more damaging than good,. Every time they do, American opinion sways against them even more. The advocates brought about a minor law suit and used it to degrade the town and the Mayor at every turn, using lies and intolerance at every turn. When citizens in the town express concern about deviant behavior on the parts of the illegals, the advocates NEVER show any respect or compromise. In short a very small, yet noisy, group of people, ( advocates) have done nothing but divide and attempt to destroy a good town and the good people in it. They have given nothing back. They have done nothing to help those they care about earn respect. I know that many users on this board do have compassion for the illegals. It must be scary to have to run away from their home country. Their biggest obstacle is their leadership, it sucks. And I bet the average illegal does not even get that. So very sad. Brian, your very generous with your response to CR, How many time you gonna tell this person the the SAME THING...either he'll NEVER get it, or gona goat you into something through some other silliness.. Brian, you have a Sanity eagerness help the blind see and the lame walk! |
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Post by SusanSt4377 on Feb 26, 2007 15:00:56 GMT -5
Next Generation, GREAT GREAT GREAT Letter!
I agree wholeheartedly. It's time to take back this town. I have personally had enough!
Susan
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Post by sonofsilencedogood on Feb 26, 2007 15:17:52 GMT -5
I have to throw in my two cents here...
As someone who grew up in this town...spent several years living in Manhattan...and has now been back in town for some time, I have to disagree with the specifics that Next Generation brings up. I'm in my early 30's, so I am right on the border of his next wave of people inheriting this town.
I don't want a "trendy town" with "chic stores, posh bars and clubs", I don't want "Chelsea, SoHo or West Hollywood". I want Freehold Boro!! We agree on wanting a relaxed, clean community without crowds of people collecting at the 6-12 or by Rita's. But Freehold Boro is a working class town with a historical significance. I like the small town feel that Freehold Boro had, still clings to desperately, and hopefully will have again some day. Freehold has it's own character, and once you start populating it with stores and bars that don't fit that character, you wind up trying to make this town something it's not. If you want Chelsea, SoHo or West Hollywood, you can move there.
I also don't want a town where my teenage daughters (no, I don't have teenage daughters yet) can't walk around downtown without hearing cat calls from the illegal day laborers that infest our streets like locusts...and yes, this has happened to a great many young women walking around down town.
The letter I want to write to the advocates like Frank Freyre and Tom Baldwin says the following...
Why do advocates continue to try and force us to simply accept the illegal aliens as they are and "embrace them and the cultural differences they bring to our town"? Why don't the advocacy groups instead focus their attention and seemingly limitless resources on making these people legal, law abiding, tax paying citizens?? Why, instead of handing out phone numbers of lawyers to call when they feel they are being intimidated with housing code violation inspectors, why don't they work to get these people out of houses where there are 30-40 people sleeping on mattresses on the floors? Why do advocacy groups continue to work to keep the illegal aliens in the exact same position that they are in now instead of trying to make their lives, and the lives of their families better?
I'll tell you why...
The advocacy groups are not interested in making a better life for illegal immigrants. Advocacy groups, despite their claims, are not in it to help people, they are in it for their own selfish gains.
It's real simple, if the advocacy groups are really interested in helping the illegal aliens, use some of those lawyers that are willing to donate their time and money to suing towns, states and the federal government over petty offences, and have those lawyers start the paperwork process to make these folks law abiding, tax paying, legal citizens of the United States of America. Once you get them to that stage, I'll accept their "culture" with open arms. Until then, I will do everything I can to make them feel as unwelcome as possible.
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Post by Carolyn FB on Feb 26, 2007 15:58:38 GMT -5
Some really great posts on here. I agree...we need to take the torch back and take back our beautiful town.
It's really going downhill. I am tired of seeing these dumpy stores. The whole town is losing it's personality.
I'm part Cuban, so there is no dislike of hispanic people--I am one. But let me throw this out there-- It seems as if Freehold residents, or Americans, for that matter, are being yelled at or called racist because they don't want their towns influenced by Mexican culture, but I don't feel that they are wrong. When Americans go to Mexico and start building McDonalds and other American-styled restaurants, stores, Mexican people are not happy. They feel that they are losing their own nuances. So, why is there such a double standard??
Yours,
Carolyn <3
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on Feb 26, 2007 23:29:28 GMT -5
They feel that they are losing their own nuances. So, why is there such a double standard?? Yours, Carolyn <3 Illegal Immigration, this is the double standard, that a flood of folks interloping here thinking that rules, or ratherthe Law's need not apply to them, overcrowding homes, forged documentation, driving without a legitimate drivers license, children with out car seats or seat belts, abuse to the social services systems, under the table money flow, human trafficing, ...these are mostly felony charges, but....for Illegal Immigrants its anything goes! NOW THATS a DOUBLE STANDARD, and it has NOTHING to do with Mexican culture, it has to do with rule of law! Honestly I thought Toco Bell was more offensive to mexicans, heck its offensive to me...some of the most UNHEALTHY fast food on the planet! |
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Post by Marc LeVne on Feb 27, 2007 7:38:40 GMT -5
FLASH! Jim Keelan has goten us substantial funding for our schools!!! More details will follow. Great effort.
Marc
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on Feb 27, 2007 7:44:28 GMT -5
FLASH! Jim Keelan has goten us substantial funding for our schools!!! More details will follow. Great effort. Marc Must have been one heck of a trip to trenton!!!  |
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Post by andrewd on Feb 27, 2007 9:20:51 GMT -5
Honestly I thought Toco Bell was more offensive to mexicans, heck its offensive to me...some of the most UNHEALTHY fast food on the planet! ...it may be unhealthy...but it's soooooo gooooood when you've got that craving |
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Post by sonofsilencedogood on Feb 27, 2007 10:22:33 GMT -5
Calliope...
Spot on indeed!! Unfortunately the answer as to what the advocacy groups are doing is absolutely nothing. We have become a society of political correctness, which means being called a "racist" is something we avoid at all costs!! The advocacy groups know this, so anytime someone brings up the idea of doing something about illegal immigrants, they throw that word out there, and especially in the press, as a way of shutting up those who would try to deal with the issue.
Think of it this way...advocacy groups stand between illegals and the rest of the country, pretending to be this protective shield "warding off the evil doers", but what they are really doing is keeping those people, who they claim to be protecting, from actually prospering...because if those people were to become legal citizens and better their status in life, who would the advocates have to "protect"??
It's a vicious game, and one the advocates play oh so well.
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on Feb 27, 2007 19:30:31 GMT -5
Honestly I thought Toco Bell was more offensive to mexicans, heck its offensive to me...some of the most UNHEALTHY fast food on the planet! ...it may be unhealthy...but it's soooooo gooooood when you've got that craving Like a White Castle Slider!!!! |
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on Feb 27, 2007 19:35:20 GMT -5
Calliope... Spot on indeed!! Unfortunately the answer as to what the advocacy groups are doing is absolutely nothing. We have become a society of political correctness, which means being called a "racist" is something we avoid at all costs!! The advocacy groups know this, so anytime someone brings up the idea of doing something about illegal immigrants, they throw that word out there, and especially in the press, as a way of shutting up those who would try to deal with the issue. Think of it this way...advocacy groups stand between illegals and the rest of the country, pretending to be this protective shield "warding off the evil doers", but what they are really doing is keeping those people, who they claim to be protecting, from actually prospering...because if those people were to become legal citizens and better their status in life, who would the advocates have to "protect"?? It's a vicious game, and one the advocates play oh so well. "Game", YES ... "play so well", Heck NO!! The "ADVOCATES" show too much machismo emotional tantrums and very little genuine human intelligence. "Racist this" and "History that" is quickly becoming a tired doomed to fail mantra! Frankly this "MOVEMENT" is in serious need of sensible leadership that can define a clear agenda of cooperative inclusion because after the "SPECTACLE" of a mass march on "Whatever" there needs to be a tangible goal, articulated through respectful dialog designed to show honesty, integrity and most of all MUTUAL TOLERANCE! And when the going gets tough.. the "Racist this" and "History that" accusations will not, can not resolve a thing! To be absolutely down right up right..... What the advocates are doing TODAY, is basic and simple....pandering to a prospective voting block THEY are attempting to create for promotion of their divisive rhetoric laced agenda that is still TBD! |
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Post by admin on Feb 27, 2007 20:16:12 GMT -5
Son,
I would not say that using the R word or the B word has shut people up. The movement against illegal immigration has done nothing but grow.
On a local level we have seen the advocates on the defense in the local papers. I doubt that any of us will be silenced any time soon.
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