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Post by richardkelsey on Jan 29, 2008 14:08:17 GMT -5
Who will win in these primaries? anyone have thoughts, opinions, or a sense for that?
Obama will be running into the NJEA up there. With so many experienced, brass-knuckle, interest groups on the dem side -- this should be interesting.
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Post by admin on Jan 29, 2008 16:49:36 GMT -5
I think McCain will win on the republican side.  I would like to see Obama trounce Hillary, but I think she will get it in this state.  |
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Post by adefonzo on Jan 30, 2008 6:55:08 GMT -5
The more important question is...what candidate really wants the backing of New Jersey? This state isn't known for voting in the best leaders to run our state, how are we going to pick the right person to run the country?
However...McCain will get the Republican nod, and in a minor surprise, Obama will beat Hillary despite her "home state" being right next door (and it kills me to even suggest that New York is that...woman's...home state - see, I can hold my tongue!!)
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Post by bergsteiger on Jan 30, 2008 8:47:53 GMT -5
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Post by bergsteiger on Feb 1, 2008 7:59:05 GMT -5
vdare.com/letters/tl_013108.htmA New Jersey Reader Says If McCain Has Any Hope Of Winning Republican Votes, He Must Fire Juan Hernandez From: C. Kaufmann Here is a Youtube video of Senator McCain taking a question about his hiring of Juan Hernadez as his so-called “Hispanic Outreach Advisor” Hernandez is the former Director of the Office of Mexicans Living Abroad. See the video with McCain’s reaction here. Among many of Hernandez’s offensive quotes are these: “I never knew the border as a limitation. I'd be delighted if all of us could come and go between these two marvelous countries.'' And Mexican Americans from all generations should “think Mexico first.” McCain must fire Hernandez to have any chance at winning the Republican presidential nomination. Kaufmann is a member of Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (Alipac).
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Post by richardkelsey on Feb 1, 2008 11:17:36 GMT -5
vdare.com/letters/tl_013108.htmA New Jersey Reader Says If McCain Has Any Hope Of Winning Republican Votes, He Must Fire Juan Hernandez From: C. Kaufmann Here is a Youtube video of Senator McCain taking a question about his hiring of Juan Hernadez as his so-called “Hispanic Outreach Advisor” Hernandez is the former Director of the Office of Mexicans Living Abroad. See the video with McCain’s reaction here. Among many of Hernandez’s offensive quotes are these: “I never knew the border as a limitation. I'd be delighted if all of us could come and go between these two marvelous countries.'' And Mexican Americans from all generations should “think Mexico first.” McCain must fire Hernandez to have any chance at winning the Republican presidential nomination. Kaufmann is a member of Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (Alipac). If I were running the Romney campaign -- I'd be running commercials wiht nothing but clips of Hernandez, who has said some of the most outrageous things. Literally, McCain could lose the election if Romney worked this correctly. |
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Post by bergsteiger on Feb 1, 2008 13:30:44 GMT -5
vdare.com/letters/tl_013108.htmA New Jersey Reader Says If McCain Has Any Hope Of Winning Republican Votes, He Must Fire Juan Hernandez From: C. Kaufmann Here is a Youtube video of Senator McCain taking a question about his hiring of Juan Hernadez as his so-called “Hispanic Outreach Advisor” Hernandez is the former Director of the Office of Mexicans Living Abroad. See the video with McCain’s reaction here. Among many of Hernandez’s offensive quotes are these: “I never knew the border as a limitation. I'd be delighted if all of us could come and go between these two marvelous countries.'' And Mexican Americans from all generations should “think Mexico first.” McCain must fire Hernandez to have any chance at winning the Republican presidential nomination. Kaufmann is a member of Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (Alipac). If I were running the Romney campaign -- I'd be running commercials wiht nothing but clips of Hernandez, who has said some of the most outrageous things. Literally, McCain could lose the election if Romney worked this correctly. Good point! I bet you could run them 24/7 without using the same one and not run out of material. |
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Post by fbrepublican on Feb 2, 2008 18:40:22 GMT -5
Juan Hernandez is the modern day snake oil salesman. Once it becomes widely know that McCain is associating with this person, it will be the end of his presidential run.
It is sad to say but it appears that McCain will win the nomination.
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Post by bergsteiger on Feb 3, 2008 14:16:24 GMT -5
Holly, what do you think about Juan Hernandez ? he's a real sweethart huh?
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on Feb 4, 2008 9:03:17 GMT -5
In Holly's bizzaro world Hillary will allow Bill to be cloned so that his clone can run for President. Here's to the good life..  Maybe they can clone Bella Abzug to be the "CLONE" Bill's first lady. At least shes a real New Yorker, not an opportunistic carpet bagger! |
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Post by Libyan Sibyl on Feb 4, 2008 14:18:29 GMT -5
Lisa, I have to agree - Hillary was elected so NYers got what they deserve ... But there is a difference between Geo and Ted in comparison to Hillary. Geo and Ted live here, and lived here before seeking office (in the case of Geo, being appointed - not sure if seeking is the right term for him - this year at least). Hillary moved to NY with the sole intention of running for office.
But if it makes you happy, I'll sign the petition to impeach Geo and only let native Freeholdians seek office here. Sorry Ted.
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Post by bergsteiger on Feb 4, 2008 16:27:14 GMT -5
Hmmmm, Avoidance on the Juan question huh? I don’t think the country is ready for women president or at least not that one and Obama, that’s almost a joke. ;D If the dems put up a normal candidate they couldn’t lose.  |
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on Feb 4, 2008 16:49:48 GMT -5
thanks Lib...100% correct.
Geo and I moved here to raise families and plant roots in the Boro. Clinton moved to NY simply because NY was the "low hanging fruit" to the Senate. If California, IL, or any other state presented a path to Washington, She'd have moved there. I have traveled through most of NY State, and can tell you that out side of NYC, Hilary is not well regarded at all! Once you get beyond the Catskill region, NY State is very Conservative and Republican. Rochester, Syracuse, Buffalo, western NY state is NOT Hillary Country
RFK, to his credit, moved to NYC as a statesman Senator,a nd at least established social programs like "Model Cities", .. that focused on LONG TERM improvement of the Quality of life in NY first, Politics second. I Truly Remember RKF...Hilary is NO RFK (not even close).
Lisaw, I am sure you re attempting to issue a great point, I'd like top understand your post better!
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Post by admin on Feb 4, 2008 16:58:51 GMT -5
Besides eligibility, the other reason Hillary chose New York was because that state has very liberal residency laws for candidates. Coming straight out of Washington like she did required a state that would elect her as well as one that she could run in. Fiber, are you saying that outside the city they would never have elected Hillary? Goes to show us all how dopey city people are! And LS, that petition would also require the impeachment of the Mayor and Marc. They were not born here either! |
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Post by admin on Feb 4, 2008 17:01:13 GMT -5
Hmmmm, Avoidance on the Juan question huh? I don’t think the country is ready for women president or at least not that one and Obama, that’s almost a joke. ;D If the dems put up a normal candidate they couldn’t lose. AS afar as women and minority presidential candidates go, I was hoping to see Condoliza Rice run. She is a class act and could have been a very good candidate. |
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on Feb 4, 2008 17:11:19 GMT -5
Brian,. I spent a number of years working with accounts in UpState and Western New York, the CIty is truly the 51st state. But if you think NYC is bad...try LA...  |
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on Feb 4, 2008 17:54:49 GMT -5
Yhea.., McCain's VP, Condoliza Rice. Thats the ticket!
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Post by bergsteiger on Feb 4, 2008 19:57:31 GMT -5
Yhea.., McCain's VP, Condoliza Rice. Thats the ticket! Condoliza Rice? You guys are joking right  |
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Post by admin on Feb 5, 2008 7:57:56 GMT -5
Berg, what do you have against Condi? She is an inspirational person with some good old fashioned conservative values. In context of the discussion of a minority or female president, that will more likely happen with a Republican candidate. Somebody like Condi would be a great candidate. Even more so than Colin Powell.
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Post by adefonzo on Feb 5, 2008 8:51:56 GMT -5
When was the last time we looked at the candidates for President of the United States and honestly thought, "these really are the best leaders in our country"??
Why is it assumed that Hillary Clinton is the best person to become the first woman President? Will someone please tell me where all this "experience" she claims to have is coming from? She makes it sound as if she's been serving as an elected official for decades!!
Why is it that we continue to allow candidates to get elected without having to go into detail about how they will make the "changes" they continue to promise? This goes for both sides of the aisle!!
Why is it that everyone grew sick and tired of Rudy Giuliani supposedly overplaying the "9/11 card", but we never tire of police and firefighters using 9/11 as an excuse as to why they should be treated better than anyone else? Sidenote...while it's important for the country to move on from 9/11, it's not a good idea for us to forget about it.
Why is it we continue to reward candidates who run campaigns that are more focused on smearing their opponent rather than discussing the issues that are affecting the country?...again, both sides of the aisle.
How long will we continue to let these things happen?
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Post by Libyan Sibyl on Feb 5, 2008 10:01:39 GMT -5
When was the last time we looked at the candidates for President of the United States and honestly thought, "these really are the best leaders in our country"?? Why is it assumed that Hillary Clinton is the best person to become the first woman President? Will someone please tell me where all this "experience" she claims to have is coming from? She makes it sound as if she's been serving as an elected official for decades!! Why is it that we continue to allow candidates to get elected without having to go into detail about how they will make the "changes" they continue to promise? This goes for both sides of the aisle!! Why is it that everyone grew sick and tired of Rudy Giuliani supposedly overplaying the "9/11 card", but we never tire of police and firefighters using 9/11 as an excuse as to why they should be treated better than anyone else? Sidenote...while it's important for the country to move on from 9/11, it's not a good idea for us to forget about it. Why is it we continue to reward candidates who run campaigns that are more focused on smearing their opponent rather than discussing the issues that are affecting the country?...again, both sides of the aisle. How long will we continue to let these things happen? ummm, Andrew, don't you know any better... [glow=red,2,300] [/glow] |
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Post by bergsteiger on Feb 5, 2008 10:36:03 GMT -5
Berg, what do you have against Condi? She is an inspirational person with some good old fashioned conservative values. In context of the discussion of a minority or female president, that will more likely happen with a Republican candidate. Somebody like Condi would be a great candidate. Even more so than Colin Powell. Condi has done nothing to inspire me. What makes you think she would be up to the task. None of the candidates in either party impress me even a little |
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Post by Libyan Sibyl on Feb 5, 2008 11:36:48 GMT -5
Berg, what do you have against Condi? She is an inspirational person with some good old fashioned conservative values. In context of the discussion of a minority or female president, that will more likely happen with a Republican candidate. Somebody like Condi would be a great candidate. Even more so than Colin Powell. Condi has done nothing to inspire me. What makes you think she would be up to the task. None of the candidates in either party impress me even a little Brian, Wake up! Wake up! you are having a nightmare! |
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Post by admin on Feb 5, 2008 13:33:51 GMT -5
Condi has done nothing to inspire me. What makes you think she would be up to the task. None of the candidates in either party impress me even a little Brian, Wake up! Wake up! you are having a nightmare! With Condi in office we could have had eight more years of the excellent leadership we have now! ;D |
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Post by admin on Feb 5, 2008 13:34:28 GMT -5
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on Feb 5, 2008 13:46:26 GMT -5
"excellent leadership we have now!" Brian, I'm missing something. If your talking about the Whitehouse how do these three words fit into the same sentence. ARE you OK, should I call the 1st Aid Squad, have you fallen on your keyboard and can not get up? Brian, Wake up! Wake up! you are having a nightmare! With Condi in office we could have had eight more years of the excellent leadership we have now! ;D
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Post by admin on Feb 5, 2008 13:53:55 GMT -5
"excellent leadership we have now!" Brian, I'm missing something. If your talking about the Whitehouse how do these three words fit into the same sentence. ARE you OK, should I call the 1st Aid Squad, have you fallen on your keyboard and can not get up? With Condi in office we could have had eight more years of the excellent leadership we have now! ;D Actually, I did that on purpose. I was wondring it we had any Dems left on this web site. I guess you could say I went fishing for Dems and I caught me a Fiber! ;D I'll have to throw him back! |
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Post by Libyan Sibyl on Feb 5, 2008 15:14:19 GMT -5
Brian,
I hate to burst your Bubble, but Bush is tax and spend. He is not a republican. He may have conservative values, but he is no small government type of guy.
Put it this way, do you know who are glad that this Bush came to the whitehouse? Presidents like Jimmy Carter and Herbert Hoover can breather a sigh of relief. There is no competition compared to no. 43: he is truly the worst president.
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on Feb 5, 2008 15:17:08 GMT -5
And blind faith? Sorry I belong to the party of Lincoln, yha know...HONEST ABE, not Fibber George the ARTIKA'LET "I fully understand those who say you can't win this thing militarily. That's exactly what the United States military says, that you can't win this military." Bush — on progress in Iraq, Washington, D.C., Oct. 17, 2007 "You know, when you give a man more money in his pocket—in this case, a woman more money in her pocket to expand a business, it—they build new buildings. And when somebody builds a new building somebody has got to come and build the building. And when the building expanded it prevented additional opportunities for people to work." Bush —Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007 Theres more...but this is enough for most people to understand our sorry loss. Bush has seriously lowered the Presidential Bar. "excellent leadership we have now!" Brian, I'm missing something. If your talking about the Whitehouse how do these three words fit into the same sentence. ARE you OK, should I call the 1st Aid Squad, have you fallen on your keyboard and can not get up? Actually, I did that on purpose. I was wondring it we had any Dems left on this web site. I guess you could say I went fishing for Dems and I caught me a Fiber! ;D I'll have to throw him back! |
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Post by Libyan Sibyl on Feb 5, 2008 17:02:15 GMT -5
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