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Post by admin on Sept 9, 2009 9:27:59 GMT -5
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Post by truthinesshurts on Sept 9, 2009 12:19:09 GMT -5
At the risk of stating the obvious:
7 Marcy Street - 2 family rental
9 Marcy Street - rental
16 Marcy Street - rental
17 Marcy Street - 2 family rental
18 Marcy Street - rental
21 Marcy Street - rental
22 Marcy Street - 2 family rental
24 Marcy Street - rental
25 Marcy Street - rental
28 Marcy Street - rental
30 Marcy Street - rental
31 Marcy Street - rental
33 Marcy Street - 2 family rental
35 Marcy Street - rental
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Post by admin on Sept 9, 2009 12:27:02 GMT -5
At the risk of stating the obvious: 7 Marcy Street - 2 family rental 9 Marcy Street - rental 16 Marcy Street - rental 17 Marcy Street - 2 family rental 18 Marcy Street - rental 21 Marcy Street - rental 22 Marcy Street - 2 family rental 24 Marcy Street - rental 25 Marcy Street - rental 28 Marcy Street - rental 30 Marcy Street - rental 31 Marcy Street - rental 33 Marcy Street - 2 family rental 35 Marcy Street - rental Interesting follow up. I wonder if there is a pattern in all of this? Nope.... I just don't see it. ;D |
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Post by admin on Sept 9, 2009 17:15:14 GMT -5
At the risk of stating the obvious: 7 Marcy Street - 2 family rental 9 Marcy Street - rental 16 Marcy Street - rental 17 Marcy Street - 2 family rental 18 Marcy Street - rental 21 Marcy Street - rental 22 Marcy Street - 2 family rental 24 Marcy Street - rental 25 Marcy Street - rental 28 Marcy Street - rental 30 Marcy Street - rental 31 Marcy Street - rental 33 Marcy Street - 2 family rental 35 Marcy Street - rental And there is more..... 19 Marcy is a rental - the owner has a Brooklyn mailing address; 11 Marcy is owned by RickRob Realty (address 11 Marcy) 32, 34, 37-41 Marcy is owned by AHM, LLC., 21 South Street 8 Marcy owned by someone from Farmingdale So, Truthiness listed 14 rentals. App Datauniverse lists 30 properties on Marcy. Fourteen plus the 6 here are 20 rentals (maybe one or two are commercial???). Anyway 2/3 of the street is not residential owner occupied. Only these 10 of the 30 properties are owner occupied: 15, 23, 27, 29 are owner occupied 6, 10, 12, 14, 20, 26 are owner occupied |
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Post by admin on Sept 9, 2009 17:19:51 GMT -5
From my first post...
This is an interesting topic considering the NPC has been working in the area to clean it up and build community pride. A look at the News Transcript archives provides a sad look at this street. What is posted below is mostly old news from when the NT had the police beat section, which is long gone. I wonder if the area has changed for the better in recent years? The NPC has their work cut out for them if things are the same.
The NPC has some real work here. It will be interesting to see how the work, followed by the block party, effect positive change in the area.
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Post by truthinesshurts on Sept 9, 2009 17:34:07 GMT -5
Yes, I should have mentioned that the info I posted was from the Borough website list of rental properties as of Sept 08.
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Post by admin on Oct 11, 2009 9:03:56 GMT -5
Yesterday was the block party for Marcy Street. It is a real shame, but eye witness reports tell me that the block party was very poorly attended. I realize that this is only a piece of the puzzle for fixing up the bad areas of town, but I hope these initiatives from the NPC continue. What they are doing is a very good thing. And there is no question that the NPC has had a positive impact overall.
While most of this thread concentrates on the high crime of the Marcy Street area and the fact that it is a rental street, engaging the residents there is something that will need to continue. Yesterday was a valiant effort that should have been better, but the war is not over. In time improvements can and will be made.
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Post by Mike Rosseel on Oct 12, 2009 7:43:36 GMT -5
Brian, for once im going to ask you where you get your info from. This was a well planned out event and well attended. The people of the street are together and happy at whats taking place. there were alot of people there and they all had a good time. we owned a house on MArcy and the people are great and needed soemthng to unite them together. your above statement seems like more campaigning for that idiot and newman, then it does reporting the truth. Congrats to the NPC and Marc LeVine for having a SUCCESSFUL event on Marcy street!
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Post by admin on Oct 12, 2009 12:54:42 GMT -5
Brian, for once im going to ask you where you get your info from. This was a well planned out event and well attended. The people of the street are together and happy at whats taking place. there were alot of people there and they all had a good time. we owned a house on MArcy and the people are great and needed soemthng to unite them together. your above statement seems like more campaigning for that idiot and newman, then it does reporting the truth. Congrats to the NPC and Marc LeVine for having a SUCCESSFUL event on Marcy street! Freeholdboy, I will address the source of my info last. First, I have to address your comment about campaigning for Miller and Newman. Based on my above statements, that accusation is a real stretch. Reread what I wrote. Clearly I am a fan of the NPC and what they are doing. I have recognized the value of what NPC has to offer and what they have done. If you look at my past posts on them, you will see that I always support them. Your tone appears on the defense as if I am saying something in the negative about the NPC. Nothing I wrote had anything to do with their planning. I am sure they did a great job on that. I know that Councilman Le Vine went as far as to have Casa Freehold help him out with translating to get the neighborhood immigrants to attend. I know the NPC planned this for months dotting their I's and crossing their tee's. They did nothing wrong. When I write about something like this, I do so from a professional stand point. I have been working in events for almost twenty years. Sometimes attendance of any given event can have no rhyme or reason to it. An event that does good/bad this year can be the complete opposite next year for no definable reason. Attendance is not always a reflection of what the organizers put into it. I know of many examples of events where people put tons of effort and hard work into it and the event was not a success. It is no one's fault and it is also natural to start second guessing which is useless. The only thing you can do is try again. I am sure the NPC will, they have the energy and the talent. OF course there is also the question of what defines a success for any given event. I could get really long winded on that so I will save it. I will add one thing about this, and this is a general observation. Event organizers will almost always over estimate their numbers. I have seen that many times in many places. That, too, is natural and understandable, not a dig into anybody. Unless there is some method in place that can reliably count the number of people at an event, expect the event numbers to be reported higher than they were. Now, you ask about my sources. When I wrote the above I had two but now I have three. I do not give up my sources because that is how I earn trust and get more info! I will tell you the break down. One was indeed a staunch supporter of Miller/ Newman. The second was not. The second is a neutral party and probably connected to the Dems. One of those two used the word "embarrassing" to describe the turn out. The third eye witness was..... ME! I didn't realize it, but the event was planned until 5 PM ( according to reliable info I saw). I drove by a bit after four thinking the party was over. When I did, I saw barricades and not much of any people around. If there was a big party, I would have seen it. ( and crashed it ;D) Is my observation intended to be malicious? Absolutely not. I know the NPC will keep going strong and doing the good job they do. Any given persons observations aside, there will be one true and final verdict on this as with anything. What is written in the papers. Lets see if the NT or APP pick up on this event and through a reporters eyes, tell us a different story. One last thing, Freeholdboy, you called Miller an idiot. Please try to refrain from name calling. We avoid that here. There are other sites where people can lower themselves to that level. I am not asking you to like Miller or anyone else- campaign for the other guys all you want-just be civil. Being decent to one another is what has made this site better than most others. I wouldn't accept it if someone called Le Vine an idiot. None of the candidates deserve that. |
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Post by Mike Rosseel on Oct 14, 2009 11:38:45 GMT -5
"One last thing, Freeholdboy, you called Miller an idiot. Please try to refrain from name calling. We avoid that here. There are other sites where people can lower themselves to that level. I am not asking you to like Miller or anyone else- campaign for the other guys all you want-just be civil. Being decent to one another is what has made this site better than most others. I wouldn't accept it if someone called Le Vine an idiot. None of the candidates deserve that."
I'm not campaigning for anyone. That my friend is an unfair claim by you! maybe your defensive because you are campaigning. I have posted comments which were positive about LeVine, Shutzer and Newman. Obviously from other sites, im not the only one that thinks this was an unfair post. Thats our opinions, and we are entitled to them! i have said you do a very nice job on here.
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Post by richardkelsey on Oct 14, 2009 15:42:33 GMT -5
"One last thing, Freeholdboy, you called Miller an idiot. Please try to refrain from name calling. We avoid that here. There are other sites where people can lower themselves to that level. I am not asking you to like Miller or anyone else- campaign for the other guys all you want-just be civil. Being decent to one another is what has made this site better than most others. I wouldn't accept it if someone called Le Vine an idiot. None of the candidates deserve that." I'm not campaigning for anyone. That my friend is an unfair claim by you! maybe your defensive because you are campaigning. I have posted comments which were positive about LeVine, Shutzer and Newman. Obviously from other sites, im not the only one that thinks this was an unfair post. Thats our opinions, and we are entitled to them! i have said you do a very nice job on here. Freeholdboy -- you have a Constitutional Right to think anyone is an idiot -- or worse. Here -- I am sure that many posters have views equally as strong about a whole host of people. All we ask is that you refrain from those types of personal attacks on this Board. We don't ask that you change your opinion. I am not singling you out. We have had this conversation with a host of people over the years. My advice is always to go the next step and let the reader of your post draw his or her own conclusions based not on your conclusion == but substantive facts. For example -- if you said, "Every day, Rich Kelsey walks out of his house, rips up a 20 dollar bill, and throws it in the trash. Then, all he does is talk about how the county wastes money. This seems absurd" That would be you writing factual components to support an obvious conclusion that I am, in fact, an idiot. Notice, you don't have to call me an idiot -- you need only let people know the "facts" that would draw them to that conclusion. The argument would then be more powerful, and permissible under the rules of the site. What this site is not going to do is become a dumping ground for lies, personal attacks, multiple identities, personal grudges, etc. We spent plenty of time cleaning up our house in that regard, and sadly, there are sites out there that permit and encourage that type of behavior. We do not aim to be one of those sites. as a result, some people will never post here. We are better for that. I think the aim here is to raise the level of debate. |
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Post by admin on Oct 14, 2009 15:52:05 GMT -5
"One last thing, Freeholdboy, you called Miller an idiot. Please try to refrain from name calling. We avoid that here. There are other sites where people can lower themselves to that level. I am not asking you to like Miller or anyone else- campaign for the other guys all you want-just be civil. Being decent to one another is what has made this site better than most others. I wouldn't accept it if someone called Le Vine an idiot. None of the candidates deserve that." I'm not campaigning for anyone. That my friend is an unfair claim by you! maybe your defensive because you are campaigning. I have posted comments which were positive about LeVine, Shutzer and Newman. Obviously from other sites, im not the only one that thinks this was an unfair post. Thats our opinions, and we are entitled to them! i have said you do a very nice job on here. Freehold boy, My apologies to you. I did not mean to imply that you were campaigning for anyone. That was a bad choice of words on my part. My bigger point is that I respect your right to your views, what ever they may be, and I will not put you or anyone down for that. I respect any person who cares to express their views as long as it is in civil discussion, which for the most par you do. AS far as people on other sites, they are entitled to their opinions too. If any take issue with me, they are free to come here and discuss things. |
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Post by admin on Oct 14, 2009 15:54:59 GMT -5
Also, Frehold boy, Rich's post is a very good read as well. He mentions other sites and how low they go. We have long been a better place for better conduct. And here isa bit of trivia for you. Marc Le Vine was one of the early participants who helped raise the bar early on so that we do not turn into those other sites.
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Post by outlander08 on Oct 21, 2009 22:56:10 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on the new development (orchard street) at the end of Marcy street?
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Post by admin on Oct 22, 2009 5:32:13 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on the new development (orchard street) at the end of Marcy street? Outlander08, welcome to the site! Your question certainly came out of nowhere, but it is an interesting topic to revisit. My opinion is mixed. I think in a town where we are overdeveloped and over crowded, it is a shame that some sort of park or recreation area wasn't considered. On the plus side, it is good to see houses that are actually affordable being built as opposed to the usual New Jersey mcmansions which are popping up all over. Of course, these houses came along at the same time that the housing market crashed, so lets hope they sell, if they haven't already. What are they going for now? Around 309,000? If I recall thye started at 399,000. ( not inlcuding the senior condos) |
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Post by outlander08 on Oct 22, 2009 14:55:20 GMT -5
I no off topic but I feel that it fits in with the Marcy st topic. The houses range from 305,000-420,000, however the houses that were built are roughly 350,000 and up. I have mixed feelings as well I feel that it is a great push to bring some new life to that area, also increasing property value as well. Ive have seen a great amount of police patrols in that area. However, I am unsure about new buyers, they my be hesitant to buy in that area because of the area's property value is noticeably lower. I feel a fear would be if they build all these houses and can not sell them that they will sit abandon causing many more problems.
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Post by admin on Oct 23, 2009 6:05:43 GMT -5
I no off topic but I feel that it fits in with the Marcy st topic. The houses range from 305,000-420,000, however the houses that were built are roughly 350,000 and up. I have mixed feelings as well I feel that it is a great push to bring some new life to that area, also increasing property value as well. Ive have seen a great amount of police patrols in that area. However, I am unsure about new buyers, they my be hesitant to buy in that area because of the area's property value is noticeably lower. I feel a fear would be if they build all these houses and can not sell them that they will sit abandon causing many more problems. I agree with you that this is on topic. It really provides some clarity as to why it was a good decision for the NPC to choose this area for fix up. Lets hope that what ever results they achieved are long term and not short lived. The fact that Marcy Street is such a heavy rental area makes that a real challenge. Even with any progress with current renters, it may not last due to the fact that rentals have a tendency to be very transient. There could be a sizable number of new faces in that area this time next year. NPC may need to do another block party next year! The police patrols are good to hear about. This thread has clearly outlined that the area is a heavy crime area. Of course the fear of the new houses not selling is a legitimate as well. That is not a borough issue so much as it is a reflection of the lousy housing market. Even my street is seeing that and the houses here have always sold very quick. Anyway, good perspectives from you, Outlander. It is good to have you here. |
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