Lawyers to consult with renters under Latino Leade

[fiberisgoodforyou]

Thanks A.D. for your candid, honest and genuine appeal!

Whats on the agenda BTW (cause its not on the BOE great new web site yet.. )?

CHEERS~!

[Marc LeVine]

This is exactly my point....Why are these "ADVOCATES" NOT....lurking the streets there, establishing their so called cause's where is it needed MOST... Maybe because they want to clear out the human being's to create a SAFE NEW Latino Community, because the existing Latino Communities are so out of control, so unsafe, that they will get shot by there own before they can make a named for them selves as the Latino Al Sharpton (FF).

And that is the difference Sharpie Al Sharpton, addresses issues (like him or not) in the Hoods that need him the most to improve their quaility of life first, by becoming LAWFUL and Vigilant. This is how he STANDS up to his own, and aganda is to pulls them up, and out of the squalor ghettos of the 70's where he launched his gig. He may have softened his public persona over the last few years (like hosting SNL..OMG Was he a cracker sell out?), but like him or not, he's done a few things right.

I know the truth, and my post maintains a flavor that is part rhetorical, part hopeful optimism and part "Telling-Statements" as to public and hidden agendas. Marc...you and I know the real deal, its Senor's and Senoritas that are being played like Mariachi Violin's who need to wake up and smell the salsa!

FIGFY

I am convinced that the deal about Freehold and Lakewood is exactly the same - there is an unwritten covenant between the advocacy groups and our higher levels of government to maintain a significant illegal immigrant presence in these towns to supply the cheap labor that Western Monmouth and the Lakewood Industrial parks need. The towns have been sacrificed -written off - to protect the interest of others around us.

The North Jersey towns are overpopulated with illegals and, if not for Brickforce, Omni, On Target and other similar staffing services that bus the temps out of town, the business communities up there can not support the numbers. We sent hundreds of these people south, by van, to Cranbury and Dayton and out to Raritan Center to to fill orders.

My concern is always the Black and White flight that takes place and has taken place in the towns you mentioned in your earlier post. Walk down Smith Street in Perth Amboy on a Saturday afternoon and there is no longer any diversity, there. It is a Latino town, not a town with Latinos. I'm not sure how this happened, but it is NOT a good thing. Even Harlem has become more diverse (my Brother-in-Law lives and works there).

The lower east side of New York was an immigrant haven during the turn of the last century, Jews, Italians and Irish immigrants made the area a true melting pot for America. How much of America can rub off on people in towns like Perth Amboy and West New York, if all the other groups run away? What you, then, have is a place where English is really a second language and bargain stores line the streets and all the Chinese Restaurants advertise "Latina Y China."

Perth Amboy and the other towns you mentioned are not at all like a Chinatown or Little Italy, where everyone likes to flock to enjoy the food and culture. These towns are not quaint and charming, either. They are cheap and run down. They are not a place to walk the streets and enjoy the culture like you can in the Iron Bound section of Newark (Portuguese and Brazilian influences). These are only places to go to buy a cheap pair of lace curtains and some tacky electric moving waterfall picture surrounded by a mirror style frame.

Want to see what Perth Amboy REALLY wants to be? Go down to the waterfront. Eat at Barges or at the Armory. Or, dine on the Cornucopia Princess. One large town, one small American section forced up the street and trying to hold on.

Good old American Hot Dogs, anyone?

Marc

[richardkelsey]

andrewd said:

Let me apologize for not responding sooner to Fiber's earlier post, calling on me to say something about Ron Reich's decision to join this Latino Leadership Alliance at tonight's school board meeting.

First of all, I implore all who are reading this to read the whole thing, not just parts and pieces.

Ron Reich's decision to offer his services to this group has no impact on his role as a school board member, so long as he does not use his position as a board member to somehow influence the work he does with this group.

I know that this is not the answer people want to hear, but it is the truth. As a school board member, our responsibility is simple, we have to find ways to provide the best possible educational opportunities for all of those children who are enrolled in our schools.

Now I know...everyone is going to scream back about the issue of allowing children of illegal immigrants into our schools and how we should make it tougher for them to get in. As it has been stated (over and over again) the laws are set by the state, and despite the popular opinion on this site, Freehold Boro has restrictions that are just as stringent, if not more stringent, than the surrounding towns in regards to enrollment.

That's not the issue here, though, and I don't want to lose focus on the issue of this thread.

Basically it boils down to this, Ron Reich is allowed to have his own opinions, just as I and every other board member are allowed to have ours. If he uses his position as a board member to somehow influence a decision, or if he tries to use the board in some way to aid his work with these groups, then it's a conflict of interest. Until then, it is simply something he is doing with his time outside of the board.

I have inquired about this with the legal team with the New Jersey School Boards Association to ensure that my thoughts are correct.

What someone on the board does outside of the board is not something that is to be addressed at a school board meeting. If you have a difference of opinion with Ron Reich, or any other board member for that matter, I suggest you make your opinions known in the voting booth.

I will add this personal note...

I am on the other side of this issue regarding the illegal population in town. Outside of my work on the Board of Education, I have written letters to and tried to get action from various State Assemblymen, and Senators as well as Federal officials. But when I come to a BOE meeting, it is my responsibility as a member of that board to provide the best education for every student currently enrolled in the schools, and I will continue to do just that.

For those of you who read this and feel that I do not represent your ways of thinking, you too should exercise your right to vote against me when I run for re-election.

I realize that this issue is a very hot topic in town, and that it's effects are felt in many different areas of the town, but do not confuse the roles of BOE members with the roles of town and or state legislators.

This is a well-written post.

Mr. Reich -- or anyone's activities outside their elected position -- should be judged by the electorate -- unless those activities interfere with School business.

To the extent people have a problem with Mr. Reich choosing to use his legal expertise in a manner that makes voters unhappy -- they should vote accordingly. They should make that unhappiness known, and they should take every proper, political, and networking opportunity to cast light on those activities and let them be judged in the political market place.

Where I would differ from you is here: I do think it is a fair question to ask -- even at a School Board meeting -- if Mr. Reich believes that actively helping illegal immigrants to stay in the Borough, in sub-standard living conditions, is in the best interest of the school district -- particularly since this district is flooded with both illegal aliens, and the children of illegal aliens.

That is a fair question, in my opinion.

It is the answer to that question that will allow voters to judge, for themselves, whether Mr. Reich's outside activities are no longer fully compatible with the best interest of the district. The voters may well be satisfied with the answer.

My point is -- it is a political question -- and the answer does bear on the interest, bias, propensity, and agenda of a person serving. Therefore, it would be completely appropriate -- if asked directly and intelligently at an open forum. Will it be a comfortable moment -- no -- but it would not be an inappropriate moment.

I do completely agree that a lawyer's decision to provide pro bono representation to a group or select individuals should not, absent a direct conflict, require any Board action. The only action applicable here -- if any, is political in nature.

Mr. Reich is an attorney. He has been asked tough questions before -- and knows how to ask and answer them as well. I am sure he can handle it.

Remember -- he is an elected official -- which makes him answerable to the voters of the Borough. What is relevant to them is the only measuring stick, politically. This is why you purportedly have local control. You are suppose to be able to go to these meetings and ask these people, in whom you have entrusted your dollars and the education of your children, to answer for both the administration of the school, and conduct that impacts the schools. Little towns like Freehold need far more people asking these types of questions. Otherwise -- what on earth is local control for?

[Marc LeVine]

Mr. Reich -- or anyone's activities outside their elected position -- should be judged by the electorate -- unless those activities interfere with School business.

Someone asked why no one put two and two together about Ron's Pro Bono offer to renters and his role on the board. Some may have already remembered that back in 2003, during the Muster Zone situation, Ron, Cecelia Reynolds and a few others were working with the immigrants in need of shelter and basic needs. It was publicized in the newspapers.

I believe he has been up for re-election, at least, once since then and obviously won his seat back. Ron and his family are very liberal Democrats and really believe in what they are doing.

I also know that given their HUGE service to the community, combined as a family (Bunnie Hammer, Lynn Reich, Adam Reich, etc), they would never do anything to hurt our town.

I'm not so confident that the other three out-of-town lawyers, who also agreed to help, have the same interests in mind. Two of them come from New Brunswick. Take a ride around French Street and near Joyce Kilmer to see what I mean. Their vision is already clouded, if that scene is acceptable to how properties should be kept!

A building Brickforce owned on French Street had an upstairs apartment we rented out. The tenant once posted a note on the door which read. "No prostuta aqui. Un familia en casa."

Marc

[fiberisgoodforyou]

Someone asked why no one put two and two together about Ron's Pro Bono offer to renters and his role on the board. Some may have already remembered that back in 2003, during the Muster Zone situation, Ron, Cecelia Reynolds and a few others were working with the immigrants in need of shelter and basic needs. It was publicized in the newspapers.

I believe he has been up for re-election, at least, once since then and obviously won his seat back. Ron and his family are very liberal Democrats and really believe in what they are doing.

AGAIN, BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN LITTLE AWARENESS OF WHO AND WHAT THE FB BOE, REALLY DOES..., NO ONE GOES TO SCHOOL BOARD MEETING!?!?!

Maybe Mr. Reich will decide that he will do the right thing and run for a Council Seat, or even Mayor? Were he can do the most Damage GOOD for this community!

[admin]

This thread is really good today. I have enjoyed all of the comments from all of you. Special thanks to Andrew D. Your time here is appreciated and welcome.

[andrewd]

Wow...all of these praises...you're going to make me blush!!!

One last reminder....

School Board meeting tonight, 7pm, Park Ave School Library.

[admin]

andrewd said:

Wow...all of these praises...you're going to make me blush!!!

One last reminder....

School Board meeting tonight, 7pm, Park Ave School Library.

Andrew, I will not make it tonight, but I promise you that the BOE will have to stare at my ugly mug at some point.

I am very busy right now, but in the near future getting people involved with the betterment of our schools is a goal that I will help out with. I promise you that.