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Post by admin on Dec 14, 2006 18:24:27 GMT -5
Brian... Like I said, I think merging would be great. And I certainly agree with your reasoning why it would be great...but what I would like to see (in addition to surrounding towns having to pay some of the price for the cheap labor they love to reap the benefits of) is our town council doing more to get the illegal population out of our town. I said on another thread that the town should look into the Illegal Immigration and Immigrant Reform Act of 1996, which allows the town to work with the US Attorney General in order to designate one of our town policemen as having the powers of a Federal Immigration Officer. I have not seen a reply to this idea. While we might be able to get the surrounding towns to help with the inflated educational cost these illegals burden us with, it doesn't deal with the problem of them still leeching off of all of our other public services. I know, you think that by putting a few kids in the Township, and Howell, and Colts Neck, and Marlboro, that we'll finally get some other towns to back us up in our fight to deal with the overall illegal issue...to be honest, I am not as confident that this will happen. If we dumped a large number of these students in one town, we could find an ally, but by sprinkling them around, I don't think the impact will be large enough to garner that much support. Just more thoughts...let's keep the debate flowing... Good points, Son. Even without an all out merger, it should not be a bad idea for the surrounding town to accept even a "sprinkle" of our overflow. They might not view our problem as theirs, but at least they could help. This town and tax payers just do not have the money. Good reform for our town is likely to come from some radical thinking. The old method of raising taxes simply can not be the only answer, and yes, I know it is a catch twenty two for us. Is there any place to get grants for vouchers? Or to get the surrounding schools to take on some of our kids? Petition the state? Sue the state? There had got to be some out side help for us.
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Post by admin on Dec 14, 2006 18:32:35 GMT -5
Aside from Abe Lincoln, who can name someone of significance, anyone who has amounted to anything, who as been home schooled? Timothy McVeigh Chris Knight (Peter Bradey), Danny Bonaduce? Home schooling is a very bad idea, unless you want a generation of underachieving moronic introverts! Hate to burst your bubble, but home schooled children and private school children do much better, percentage wise, than public school children. The only ones who say different are the education establishment trying to protect the status quo ( Expensive failure). Why wait for famous names when talking about home schooled children? This is a trend that has been growing for many years for very good reasons. The few home schooled children I have met are always very bright and well rounded, more so than they would have been had they been subjected to mediocrity.
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Post by admin on Dec 14, 2006 18:34:00 GMT -5
MERGER WILL ..... when Pigs Fly! Next Idea! If you give a pig a hard enough kick in the rear end, it will fly just fine. Next idea? find me a pig
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Post by Fiber is good for you on Dec 14, 2006 23:25:25 GMT -5
MERGER WILL ..... when Pigs Fly! Next Idea! If you give a pig a hard enough kick in the rear end, it will fly just fine. Next idea? find me a pig Pig kicking will only get you in trouble with PETA...
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Post by admin on Dec 15, 2006 5:48:46 GMT -5
If you give a pig a hard enough kick in the rear end, it will fly just fine. Next idea? find me a pig Pig kicking will only get you in trouble with PETA... I am a member of PETA-- PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS
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Post by John Galt on Dec 15, 2006 19:53:00 GMT -5
Please allow me to enlighten all of you as to what the best education for your children is. This is the most expensive type. It will cost you one years worth of wages, every year. The teacher to student ratio is the best possible. The parental involvement with the child's education is one hundred percent, unlike the public schools. Children are much more well rounded. Instead of 180 days a year, students attend 365 days a year. The teachers are the most dedicated ones you will ever see.
Can you guess?
[glow=red,2,300]HOME SCHOOL[/glow]
In case you are wondering, yes, all three of my children are home schooled. I can assure you all, that my children are out performing yours by a mile.
My children will never face the daily dose of peer pressure that public schools offer. No drugs. No bad influences. No pregnancy at age thirteen. No half baked curriculum put out by a misguided educational system. My children are focused on success and their love for learning that comes so natural to a young mind is never diminished.
No bureaucracy in the way. No begging for money from the state. No theft of taxes from the tax payers.
Home school. It pays.
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Post by givkaht on Dec 15, 2006 23:10:29 GMT -5
Good to see that Home schooling is working out for you!
Most children like being around other children all day, and find the camaraderie to be fun and challenging.
Peer pressure is good for WELL adjusted children, this is how children learn to manage competitive situations in the real world.
As far as Drugs, as well as other vices, it starts with the message, lessons taught at home and ultimately, the Parents!
As I have pasted before, I see many highly motivated, highly professional, and extremely caring faculty ion the Boro!, and frankly, SENDING children out to schools, also teaches them INDEPENDENCE, Gives the child the a chance to define them selfs iin THE and for THE, real world!
I am sure you children a really smart and very warm, buy little boys and girls need to mingle with others daily!
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Post by John Galt on Dec 17, 2006 18:26:12 GMT -5
Good to see that Home schooling is working out for you! Most children like being around other children all day, and find the camaraderie to be fun and challenging. Peer pressure is good for WELL adjusted children, this is how children learn to manage competitive situations in the real world. As far as Drugs, as well as other vices, it starts with the message, lessons taught at home and ultimately, the Parents! As I have pasted before, I see many highly motivated, highly professional, and extremely caring faculty ion the Boro!, and frankly, SENDING children out to schools, also teaches them INDEPENDENCE, Gives the child the a chance to define them selfs iin THE and for THE, real world! I am sure you children a really smart and very warm, buy little boys and girls need to mingle with others daily! Valiant, yet misguided effort in rebutting my previous writing. Yes, most children do like to be around other children on a daily basis, as mine are. It is a myth that home schooled children are not exposed to others, if for no other reason that to develop social skills. The difference is that home schooled children can be kept with others of a high caliber instead of a chaotic environment where anything goes and hostile influences are unchecked. I will not question the dedication of the schools faculty, but they are a part of a failed system. Dedication from the little people can only go so far.
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Post by fiberisgoodforyou on Dec 17, 2006 21:07:13 GMT -5
The difference is that home schooled children can be kept with others of a high caliber, chaotic environment where anything goes and hostile influences are unchecked.....
It would be great if you would please define HIGH CALIBER.
Is your inference that public school students are LOW Caliber?
You suggest that Public Schools are chaotic and hostile, is this based on your experience going to a public school, or from what you read and hear (2nd hand)?
None the less, your still paying tax's to fund our public schools.
Lets say the School District said Mr X, we'll design a classroom environment specific to the needs of YOUR kids, to assure your little ones will not fail....what would you like to see in that school?
"chaotic environment where anything goes and hostile influences are unchecked....." Fact is that the world is Chaotic and Hostile, how will you prepare your children to deal with the real world?
FIGFY
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Post by Marc LeVine on Dec 18, 2006 9:51:24 GMT -5
Home schooling is a lifestyle choice, as is sending one's children to private, military or parochial school. It is not for everyone. Some children may thrive in the home environment, while it may result in various difficulties for others. I know that the state requires strict adherence to an educational plan for these kids and their parents to follow. They also make many school resources available to these families, including social support mechanisms (e.g activities and sports).
I had to study this arrangement a few years back, when I became a certified Linda Christas educational consultant. It was a great learning experience and really taught me alot about the educational system and its shortcomings.
We all have choices as to how we want to educate our own children. My parents chose private school for me and, while we felt that I benefited from that alternative experience, I still chose a public education for my kids. True, a big part of our consideration was financial. However, we also wanted our kids to be exposed to diversity in their own hometown. We think we made the right choice for them and for us. Our kids were motivated to want to get something out of education, because getting a strong education has always been a family expectation going back many generations
Parents that want to home school their kids have my support. Though, it was never our own choice, I respect theirs. After all, they are parents.
Marc
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